[WikiEN-l] More drama

Ilmari Karonen nospam at vyznev.net
Fri Dec 29 02:13:27 UTC 2006


Guy Chapman aka JzG wrote:
> I seem to have caused a bit of a stir on the AfD for the article Ghost
> ramp.  I commented that if the Keep advocates don't fix the
> fundamental problems identified with the article at its previous AfD
> two months ago - which are: no reliable source for the name, no
> reliable source for the description and all the inclusions sourced to
> maps and satellite photos, i.e. original research - then I will delete
> it as original research.

Without discussing the actual reliability of the sourcing -- which, it 
seems to me, would require evaluating the quality of the huge mass of 
references provided for the article -- I'd just like to say that I don't 
believe AfD is really an appropriate way of dealing with incorrect 
article titles, which is what this nomination really seems to be about.

I doubt anyone would deny that there are such things as unused ramps and 
highways, and the nominator himself has since started a separate article 
on [[Unused highways]] and advocated a redirect or merge there.  As it 
happens, I find this a reasonable solution; it's just that I wish it had 
been proposed on [[WP:RM]], where it really belongs, in the first place.

Of course, this kind of thing does happen, often starting with a "delete 
or at least rename" nomination.  I've done it myself in the past: see 
[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vinkadecimal]].  "Rename" is indeed a 
valid conclusion for an AfD debate, and may often be a good compromise 
solution.  I just wish more people would consider that option _before_ 
taking the matter to AfD.

-- 
Ilmari Karonen



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