[WikiEN-l] POV on Israel

Parker Peters onmywayoutster at gmail.com
Sun Dec 24 21:41:29 UTC 2006


Do we really have to deal with antisemitic bastard behavior the day before
most of the world celebrates the birth of the world's most famous Jew?

I mean, seriously. This kind of racist POV-pushing is bad enough on
wikipedia, now we have to deal with it on the ML and at this time of year?

Shame on you.

Parker

On 12/23/06, Argis Rohat <argis.rohat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is the entire passage under the heading "Israel" in the article
> "Allegations of apartheid"
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid
>
> Does any objective person consider it to be NPOV?
>
> *Israel*
> *Main article:
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>Allegations
> of Israeli apartheid<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid>
> *
>
> The phrase "Israeli apartheid" (or the terming of
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>Israel<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel>an
> "apartheid state") is a controversial phrase used by some critics of
> Israel, who compare Israel's treatment of
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>Palestinians<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians>with
> the treatment of blacks in apartheid-era South Africa.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[82]<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Pilger>The
> majority of academics and journalists who have commented on the term
> are
> reported to deplore its use
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[83]<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Adam>on
> the grounds that it is historically inaccurate,
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>antisemitic<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[84]<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Pulzer
> >propaganda,
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[83]<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Adam>and
> a
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>political
> epithet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_epithet>used to justify
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>terrorist attacks
> against Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism>.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>[85]<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid#_note-Phillips>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>
> -------
> For one thing the sentence states as fact that the term "Israeli
> apartheid"
> is "*historically inaccurate,
> *antisemitic<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>
>   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>, propaganda,
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>and a
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>political
> epithet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_epithet>used to justify
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>terrorist attacks
> against Israel <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism>.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_apartheid>" something a
> wikipedia article should not be asserting. Secondly the paragaraph is not
> neutral and strongly weighted with the view that Israeli apartheid is not
> an
> acceptable term.
>
> Several editors have attempted to correct this paragraph's bias but they
> have been blocked by a larger number of determined editors pushing a POV
> against the term.
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