[WikiEN-l] [Foundation-l] Meta:MetaProject to Overhaul Meta

Gordon Joly gordon.joly at pobox.com
Tue Apr 4 10:46:54 UTC 2006


At 01:19 +0200 31/3/06, Anthere wrote:

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>Let me copy here LinuxBeak proposal so that you understand better...
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>Alex writes
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>Well, besides from being a clean canvas that we can work from, it would
>boast some things that Meta currently does not:
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>A.) It would be heavily based upon most of the policies from en.wikipedia.
>Some things can change, but it will be a site designed with the purpose of
>being an extention of en.wikipedia instead of an entirely separate project.
>Meta2 will exist for Wikipedia instead of being a standalone project.
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>B.) Seeing that it is being built from the ground up, it will be several
>exponential degrees easier to keep things organized in a clear and concise
>manner. Read: categorization.
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>C.) It would be much cleaner and accessible by regular Wikipedians. Meta as
>it stands right now frightens many people on en. I know... I've talked to
>them.
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>D.) Old material three years from now would be in a category called
>"archive" or something akin.
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>E.) It would have the potential expandability that Meta boasts, except in a
>more defined and controlable setting.
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>--Alex
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>>  Meta is evidently not a cross-project work wiki or service wiki for
>>  other projects, but a separate community unto itself, somewhat like
>>  Commons. (Recall en:'s problems with vandalism of images stored on
>>  Commons, and how we eventually had to resort to storing featured
>>  images directly on en: owing to the recalcitrance of Commons admins
>>  who insisted they were an independent project, never mind Commons was
>>  *invented* as a service wiki.) I'm not entirely sure what the point
>>  is, but I'm sure someone will follow up with what makes a wiki where
>>  the community do their actual work in IRC and mailing lists into a
>>  work wiki whose use is clear to those not in the inner circle.
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>>  - d.
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>I am glad :-)
>You admitted there was a meta community ;-)
>Note : a *meta* community, not a *wiki* community ;-)
>Thanks David
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>ant
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Indeed. Not a wiki at all, perhaps.

Are there any groupware experts out there?

In the meantime, here are some handy references to the extant body of 
knowledge:

1)

http://www.usabilityfirst.com/groupware/


2) TOWER "Theatre of Work Enabling Relationships" , which uses BSCW. 
I worked for the TOWER project for three months in 2002 at Bartlett 
Research (UCL)

http://www.fit.fraunhofer.de/projects/tower

http://bscw.fit.fraunhofer.de/

"What is BSCW?

BSCW (Basic Support for Cooperative Work) enables collaboration over 
the Web. BSCW is a 'shared workspace' system which supports document 
upload, event notification, group management and much more. "

3)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupware


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