[WikiEN-l] request to Jimbo for out-of-process deletion of image

[SP]

Would Jimbo or someone else from the Foundation please look at of my 
comments at 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AImages_and_media_for_deletion%2F2006_March_29&diff=46739530&oldid=46719757 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AImages_and_media_for_deletion%2F2006_March_29&diff=46739530&oldid=46719757>
and correct me if I have overstated the Foundation and Jimbo's opinion 
on  the use of free images over fair use images.

I also have a slightly different opinion on the use of this photo (or a 
similar free one) for educational purposes.  While the image itself is 
horrible because it depicts the sexual exploitation of a child, its use 
for educational purposes is not horrible. It is one of the least 
offensive images available to illustrates the sexual exploitation of a 
child. There are ways to make it obvious that it is being used for 
educational purposes. Displaying the image lower on the page, reducing 
the size of the image or using a link are possibilities. It has not been 
used that way on Wikipedia and that is the problem. There are editors 
arguing for the inclusion of the image because there is nothing 
offensive about the image. These comments will get use close scrutiny 
from groups like Perverted Justice. I don't know how it fix that as long 
as we permit open discussion on talk pages.

regards,
Sydney aka FloNight

herostratus at comcast.net wrote:
> Jimbo - 
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> I hate to ask this, and wouldn't if I could think of a better solution, but would you please consider an out-of-process deletion of the image
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hikari_Hayashibara_Manga.jpg
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> Which illustrates the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon
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> This is a Manga drawing of a female about age seven, rear view, kneeling on bed, looking back over shoulder. Underpants pulled down revealing buttocks, subject is holding a toy stuffed bear which wears sado-masochism regalia (studded leather straps) and a prominant strap-on dildo. 
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> I know that we don't shy from including shocking or revolting images on the 'pedia, but this is just over the top, all the way to just plain evil.
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> I don't think this is the kind of image that you want to get hit with during an interview. I also don't think this ia good way to surprise our readers in countries where this image is illegal, and I don't think its inclusion reflects well on the 'pedia or attracts the kind of publicity and readership (and editorship) that we want.  So I wanted to bring the image to your attention. If you're OK with it, or are not OK with deleting it out-of-process, that's your call.
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> There has been much discussion on the [[Lolicon]] talk page and recently on the Images for Deletion, with no clear consensus to delete, and the next step absent a deletion by fiat is Request for Comments. That will certainly result in much typing and probably in no consensus to delete, and I'd rather see if you will just destroy the image before going through all that.
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> Thanks for your attention, 
> Herostratus
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