[WikiEN-l] Support freedum of infromashuon

[Justin Cormack]

On 29 Nov 2005, at 00:24, stevertigo wrote:

> --- Justin Cormack <justin at specialbusservice.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Best thing is to make it a featured article, it will
>> get on the front page fast.
>
> Its been on the front page for two or three days now.
>

Yeah but no but. Previous poster wanted more publicity. Was
just suggesting improving article to FA was best way...

>> But I am in the UK so not like used to freedom or
>> stuff so
>> what do I know.
>
> OK, I wasnt sure. Ive never been there. Ive heard you
> guys have lots of Starbucks' popping up though.

Oh yes loads. Come and visit, you are very welcome.

Sorry, I find your tone of voice slightly hard to
interpret by email, I think the ironing may be mixed up.

>> Stevertigo, the UK press normally ignore official
> secrets act "gagging".
>> There is a public interest defence. Sometimes
> someone goes to prison its true.
>
> Thats good to know. I had thought all the brave people
> were here in the USA.

I am afraid that [[Official Secret Act]] is really really bad
and doesnt reflect much of the importance. I did think the UK
law articles were in a kind of ok state, but it seems not.
IANAL though, so not sure I can help very much. Although
[[Riot Act]] is equally bad I have mroe historical background.

> --- geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Erm no we don't. We don't have a history of
> deferring to anyone.
>
> OK, fine -- have it your way.
>> We don't know that there are other posible reasons
> for the offcial secrets act kicking in.
>
> Youre right -- there could be other valid reasons for
> suppressing a document which describes a conversation
> between public officials about committing terrorism
> against private citizens of a friendly state. We
> should just defer to the wisdom of the Krown.
>

Most official discussions are not released. The US
has not released it either. Can a transcript be
obtained under the US Freedom of Information Act?
The UK FoI version is not real.

>> Public domain? I doubt it. Crown copyright perhaps.
>
> Well then she could just send us a takedown notice and
> we'll immediately obey, offering to polish the crown
> jewels if she likes as a peace offering.

Yes, get a copy and we can do that. As a republican
I wont be offering to polish the crown jewels though.

Justinc