Yes, I think you sum up the basic issues pretty well,
Puddle Duk. But I can think of certain specific
reasons for why the approaches you've represented have
had only tepid support. I understand the idealistic
notions underlying the Wikipedia 1.0 idea, but the
concept of 'article validation' is only one aspect of
the overall value metrics that need to be worked out:
The relationship between article valuation (AV) and
editorial valuation (EV), though distinct enough to be
treated as separate, are far too interdependent to be
considered unrelated. And relevant to this discussion,
AV and EV aren't even operable without the other,
IMHO. The current idea seems to be a confusing mixture
of both AV and EV questions, but one which ignores or
avoids utilizing any synergy between the two, and
avoids EV ratings entirely. Hence, where's the
Yin-Yang?
With the final plans for Single Log-in being ironed
out, the next big thing wants to be AV/EV, but
convincing critics seems to depend on establishing a
clear plan for how the internals will work. Some
explanations of likely heuristic approaches would
help, and some consensus towards a general direction
might also help. IMHO, the 'lets mine this turnip and
hope we find gold' approach won't work. It's a
Murphy's Law, or something like it. Testing to see
what crap floats is indeed only useful for Calvinball.
That's the value-context for any critical comments
here, be it coming from a developer or not. Criticism
brings things to focus.
-SV
--- Puddl Duk <puddlduk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
some predictions and some comments that relate to
above;
1) the current validate feature is a prototype
design. Once it is
turned on it will be played with, improved, revised
and redesigned
several times before being used for its intended
purpose. Turning on
the feature will help this process move forward.
2) Wikipedia needs a way to identify article
versions that are high
quality and vetted, possible as part of a release
system, or something
similiar. Reliability is one of our biggest
problems. If we don't
address this someone else will. A validation feature
if a good first step.
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