Tom Cadden wrote:
--- Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net> wrote:
Unlike many
other French-speaking
countries the official name for English purposes is
the French one. See
the member list for the United Nations at
http://www.un.org/Overview/unmember.html This does
not mean that other
French speaking countries follow the same practice.
The Central African
Republic does not appear as République
Centraficaine.
That is irrelevant. The official name of the Republic
of Ireland is Poblacht na hÉireann. We do not use it.
Nor do we use the official name in French of the
French Republic. We do have have the article on
Germany at the Federal Republic of Germany, let alone
the German language version of the name.
WP does not use official names are article titles.
With countries it uses common names, and puts the
official name at the top of the article's infobox.
My understanding was that the Official Name in English, /as requested by
the Government of Côte d'Ivoire/, was Côte d'Ivoire. Not "Ivory Coast".
They changed their name to Côte d'Ivoire. End discussion. That's their
name. Use it. Redirects are cheap.
Maybe the US
State Department is just following the
UN lead on this.
The proportion of newspapers and websites using the
English name is
irrelevant. The position of official Ivoirian sites
is more influential.
The position of Ivoirian sites is irrelevant. This is
not an Ivoirian encyclopædia but an English language
one that does not write its articles to suit
governments and official sites.
Are you suggesting we should get rid of diacritical marks in article
names when the devs struggled so hard to make them work in the first place?
Even then the majority was queuing up to insist the
French name be kept, no matter what. But a closer
look
showed that a large number of those voting to keep
the
French name were French speakers!
This is a racist slur for which you owe everyone an
apology.
Absolutely not. It is a fact that an article is being
kept in a location against the explicit rules in the
MoS but a vote of users of one particular language,
many of whom seem intent on putting their defence of
that language above Wikipedia's own rules.
I don't speak French. I voted for the "French" name. What does this say
about your logical phallacy?
What is WP
policy when language is used to a block
vote to force the MoS and NC to be ignored in an
article's name?
Please avoid the use of abbreviations. They only
make your comments
more difficult to read.
People on WP regularly use MoS for Manual of Style and
NC for Naming Conventions.
Go read BEANS then. Just because you /can/, doesn't mean you /should/.
Determining the official name of a country is not
a
matter for voting.
It is a sure way of having facts overwhelmed by
ignorance.
I'm surprised you don't know that WP policy IS to
decide the location of an article by voting. It is
done through requesting moves and voting on them. It
is a standard procedure used throughout WP.
[[m:Voting is evil]].
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