Maybe the people who are adept at editing are not as adept at playing
tag. The multiplicity of tags, templates and incomprehensible shortcuts
are imposible to remember. In many case plain language would be more
meaningful than shortcuts designed to save writers a few seconds.
The process that Tom describes in relation to the Irish articles appears
to be organized vandalism by the wiki's Hell's Angels.
Ec
MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:
Maybe if you turned it into a general rewrite tag that
can be used on
all articles, it might be kept...
Mgm
On 11/12/05, Tom Cadden <thomcadden(a)yahoo.ie> wrote:
>--- "Alphax (Wikipedia email)" <alphasigmax(a)gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>As someone said in #wikipedia the other day: "the
>>deletionists go around
>>deleting stuff; the inclusionists just whinge on
>>wikien-l about how bad
>>it is." So: stop complaining, and start telling
>>people *why* they need
>>to be kept.
>>
>>
>Unfortunately the greek chorus of deleters all group
>around chanting ''delete, delete delete. Begone you
>nasty template'' like something out of Lord of the
>Flies.
>
>And they don't like anyone saying 'Hold on a minute'.
>You get the image they all turn around and mutter in
>unison: did someone dare speak on our page? How dare
>he? He isn't one of us.' lol
>
>
>>Notifying the creator/last editor of such templates
>>would be a Polite
>>Thing To Do. But no, it's far easier to subst: and
>>{{d}} something,
>>because that way you can get away with it.
>>
>>
>I'm beginning to think they do it that way in the hope
>people who might disagree with them won't notice.
>
>When recently a whole blitz of Irish templates were
>put up for deletion by the one user (He seemed to be
>having one of his 'and today I will wipe out Ireland'
>moods) I dared to contact Irish users to suggest they
>look at the proposed deletions. One of the deleters
>went beserck. How DARE I "spam" users to tell them
>about the deletions. She went on and on and on and on
>in the "How dare I" rant in message after message.
>Obviously users are meant to have psychic powers to
>know that she and her colleagues had now picked Irish
>templates for wipeout. And for daring to disrupt the
>smooth running of deletions by bring aliens who might
>vote 'no' onto the page. (She made snide comments
>about how they were all doing my bidding when they
>dared disagree with her.) she promptly nominated a
>another template I had created on the page even though
>WP was perfectly happy with it and using it all
>over!!!
>
>The Deletioners and their antics makes Lord of the
>Flies sound positively heavenly.
>
>