Not liking the way people say things is no grounds for a block. This
was a wrongful block, and I find it unfortunate that you took the time
to scold this individual, but not the time to investigate the matter
or unblock him.
Of course he could have spoken better in his reply, but blocks for
personal attacks are controversial in the clearest of cases. If I said
"F*ck off, you ignorant rat bastard" to someone on tbheir talk page, I
would not expect to be blocked, and if I were I would appeal based on
the block not having been in accordance w our policies. Admins should
follow the rules more closely than anyone else, particularly when they
are attempting to use these rules in order to punish others.
Jack (Sam Spade)
On 11/2/05, Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> wrote:
hideki yukawa wrote:
freestylefrappe sent me a msg to the following
effect
on my talk page:
I suspect you are a sockpuppet of Aldirma's. [...]
You really shouldn't take this as an insult. It says "I suspect you
are..." and not "Clearly you are...". When people say something like
that, they're not making it up out of thin air; they usually have
grounds to believe this. They have a right to make mistakes every now
and then and be wrong about it. Since, as you state, you aren't a
sock-puppet, just continue as normal and everything will be fine. Just
don't be reckless, or else people might conclude that you are trying to
push an agenda, which in turn strengthens the belief that you may be a
sock-puppet.
However, in the offchance that you are not, if
you go back and look
at the different versions of the page you'll notice that he is trying
to paste in the entire Bektashi jokes page. Assuming good faith,
happy editing.
Note how the user is explaining to you rationally and calmly how they
arrived at their suspicion of you being a sock-puppet. They even
explained to you how you can prevent yourself from appearing like a
sock-puppet again. Lastly, they clarify that they are assuming your good
faith.
It was unfair of you to say this:
I suspect you start all your messages with
offensive accusations like
"I suspect you're a sock puppet of so-and-so."
because there is no basis for you to believe this, and it's just
polemics anyway, and not an attempt at helping improve the encyclopedia.
After this short exchange, Wikipedia indicated
that I
was "blocked for personal attacks" by freestylefrappe.
I agree this action was a bit harsh, but I find it understandable.
Please note that "blocked" means temporarily (usually just 24 hours, I'm
too lazy to chcek now). Cool down for that amount of time and then just
come back and continue as normal.
I suggest that freestylefrappe didn't like
the fact that I pointed out his message implicating
users being sock-puppets is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE
I suggest that freestylefrappe didn't like the WAY you said it. You
didn't just say "it's highly offensive", you wrapped it into an
unncessary personal attack. (And he didn't implicate that you are a
sock-puppet, only that he is suspecting it).
Timwi
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