On 12/11/05, Cormac Lawler <cormaggio(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On 12/11/05, Anthony DiPierro
<wikilegal(a)inbox.org> wrote:
8. Speedy delete unsourced articles.
8 was another proposal I made. Any article which was created in the
last 48 hours and contains no external references whatsoever is a
candidate for speedy deletion.
I think this would be a *bad* idea. I usually create stubs with an
external reference at least - simply to justify them not being
deleted, but not always.
Is it so hard to request that you start doing it always?
As always, we should be encouraging good
practice, not coming down heavy-handedly on people who haven't yet had
the time/experience to do something perfectly.
Cormac
We're not coming down heavy-handedly on people. The fact that the
article is deleted should in no way be taken personally.
New article creation *is* somewhat of a bigger deal than merely
editing. We've already turned it off for users that aren't logged in,
and some are suggesting that we should turn it off for users that are
new, or that we should turn it off altogether for periods of time.
If someone wants to create a new article, that's fine, but asking that
they simply locate a single source first is just not a big deal. I've
added that the user should be informed of this type of deletion on his
or her user talk page. If it was just a simple mistake, the page can
be recreated.
Obviously an admin shouldn't be deleting an article when it's just as
easy to just find the source themselves. I don't think this needs to
be written into the rules, I trust admins to not be that lazy. But at
the same time, the onus of finding the source should generally be on
the person adding the information.
Anthony
Yes, but the harder we make it for people to start their first
article, the less inviting we are, and the less wiki we become.
Regardless of the recent proposals that temper growth of Wikipedia, we
*are* still a wiki, with the (I hope) wiki philosophy that most things
will generally tend to improve in the long run. Just to repeat the
point that we should *encourage* people to do good work, not force
them. Add {{unreferenced}}, don't speedy delete. There's a learning
curve to wiki editing and encyclopedia writing.
Cormac