I'm glad there's another kid on Wikipedia.
Luckilly, my school doesn't block many sites, but
because of this, it is slated to loose funding from
the state. For schools blocking Wikipedia, I don't
think they'd bother blocking only
uncensored.wikipedia.org, anyway; they'd just block
the whole thing.
If we made that new domain name, most of wikipedia
would have to be transfered onto it. It would be
pointless. Every country says that we can't do this or
that, and soon Wikipedia is all in the uncensored
domain. The only thing that might work is putting
pictures potentially viewed as 'pornography' or just
'inapropriate' in general be put in the uncensored
domain. Once again, that would be a POV decision, but
I think we need to narrow it down to one specific
category. Instead of having the link to the picture
like there is now, it could just be added or removed
automatically based on your prefrences. In the
preferences box, you could have:
[ ] Censor inapropriate content
or something like that, checked as default. If a
blocking company were looking at Wikipedia, they
wouldn't see any potentially dangerous images.
Checking the box could also censor curse words, like
replacing fuck with f*** automatically. Of course,
this isn't really censorship (just like the below
suggestion isn't) because it can be easilly worked
around> But Google and schools will see Wikipedia as a
good, censored source. It would also eliminate the
links saying "click here for the uncensored version",
because schools wouldn't like that. If you wanted to
be really complicated, you could make a new subdomain,
u.wikipedia.org, that would use the same database but
be UNcensored by default. To get past some filters, it
would need to use a different IP adress, which would
make it very complicated to implement. This whole
thing is probably too complicated a sugestion and will
never get implemented, though.
--- Geoffrey Thomas <geoffreyerffoeg(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
My school has a very ruthless blocking system by 8e6
technologies installed on their outgoing proxy. They
block any page that might be offensive without
considering the consequences. Once they even blocked
the Science Olympiad home page shortly before
Nationals - presumably because Geocities hosted it
and
also some other offensive site, and they blocked the
IP. They occasionally packet-sniff the internet
connection to find offensive sites. They block
everything - even online games and the like. If
Wikipedia starts showing offensive content it'll be
the last day we see it at our school. There is a
difference here between offensive-inappropriate and
offensive-unpopular. The only ones of the latter
they
might block is 2600 or Join Al Qaeda
Now.com.
I propose a new domain, set up like an international
Wikipedia,
uncensored.wikipedia.org, to contain all
questionable material - pages France doesn't like,
pages China doesn't like, pages filtering software
doesn't like, etc. All questionable content can have
the link '''An uncensored version of this page is
available [[u:This page|here]].''' at the bottom,
and
pictures should be available by either
[[u:Image:offensivepicture.png]] or
[[Image:u:offensivepicture.png]] (whichever is
easier
for the software). Blocking programs/governments
will
see the rendered HTML link to <img
src="http://uncensored.wikipedia.org/..."> or <a
href="http://uncensored.wikipedia.org/..."> and
block
_that_ domain, not
www.wikipedia.org (or fr., or
zh.,
etc.). If we know some governments/schools proxy
IPs,
we could even filter all u: links out to save
Wikipedia, and sensitive users (anonymous too, by
default, if wanted) can check an option in
preferences
for either "Disable uncensored links" or "Do not
display uncensored pictures" - the latter would give
a
mere link to the picture.
On a side note, do we actually need to upload
pictures
to every Wikipedia, or can we save disk space by,
e.g., letting other language Wikipedias link to
[[en:Image:logo.png]]? If we can, the u: would be an
obvious solution - as easy as setting up another
language. If not, and this is too hard to set up,
u's
Image namespace (linked to [[u:Image:]]) can instead
be required to have [[Image:]] links to itself, and
all users would act as if "Do not display" were
checked. (See the Image page for the picture on
[[Kitten]] for an example.)
Also, this server should be run on a different IP -
either that one Bomis said it had (didn't it?), on
Pliny when Larousse becomes the absolute server, or
on
ibiblio. IP blocking is as common as domain
blocking,
so a virtual host might not suffice. (Maybe you
could
just get another $15 Ethernet card into a server,
let
that take another IP, and only serve uncensored on
that IP?)
--[[User:Geoffrey]]
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