[WikiEN-l] Zog is back as Anti-Zog

Fred Bauder fredbaud at ctelco.net
Fri May 2 12:16:04 UTC 2003


> From: "Tim Starling" <ts4294967296 at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
> Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 21:55:24 +1000
> To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Zog is back as Anti-Zog
> 
> 
>> From: Jimmy Wales <jwales at bomis.com>
>> Reply-To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
>> To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Zog is back as Anti-Zog
>> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 04:33:20 -0700
>> 
>> I think we need to revisit having the ability for sysops to ban logged
>> in users.  Maybe the wiki way of doing this is to put the ability into
>> the software, but all sysops must agree to use it *only* to ban
>> *certain* variants on a known banned troll.
>> 
>> In the current case, it seems clear to me that banning Zog, Anti-Zog,
>> Baboon Mouth, JamesERay, and so on, should be done virtually
>> instantly, so as to discourage the behavior.
> 
> I agree. But how do we implement it? We could create the concept of a
> "trusted user", perhaps defined in terms of number of edits and joining
> date. If a user is not "trusted", a sysop can ban him/her. But ideally the
> sysop should be able to also block the IP address. Here's an idea: maybe the
> IPs of users could be available to sysops, but in encrypted form. So instead
> of banning 152.163.189.233, we ban 675C4216 (possibly using slightly better
> encryption than that).
> 
> -- Tim Starling.

I think we are talking about extreme cases here, even with Adam and his
clones it took a while to be sure we were dealing with one. This Zog is not
even posing as a legitimate user. (If I accurately understand the nature of
his edits).

Fred




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