<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">I wonder if i'ts worth to keep it in Tech/News only for about several hundreds admins (all wikis) or just a few ones (most wikis), </span></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">I wonder if it's worth to keep there VE news, because most of editors who read Tech news in ukwiki afaik use wikitext editing =)</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">This doesn't seem to be crucial.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><em>Vira Motorko</em></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-31 10:14 GMT+03:00 Philippe Verdy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:verdy_p@wanadoo.fr" target="_blank">verdy_p@wanadoo.fr</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">You're right, most users don't have access to this hidden Special:Page (I don't know why it is for admins only, ).</div><div class="gmail_quote">
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">So this should be changed into</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"> "Users with <span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Admnistrator right can now add pages to their </span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist" title="Special:Watchlist" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;padding:0px!important;background-image:none!important" target="_blank">watchlist</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"> directly on </span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UnwatchedPages" title="Special:UnwatchedPages" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;padding:0px!important;background-image:none!important" target="_blank">Special:UnwatchedPages</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">, without having to leave the page."</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">I wonder if i'ts worth to keep it in Tech/News only for about several hundreds admins (all wikis) or just a few ones (most wikis), that don't care much about these news, and in fact monitor edits on wikis with more global tools, and specific reporting bots that don't need MediaWiki to watch/unwatch large lists of pages.</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">However there's still a need for all users to help them manage their watch list</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">My own list have more thousands pages : I don't monitor individual changes but I use the watchlist to help consult the history, or because MediaWiki will notify me online on each wiki; I don't want to receive email notifications though, because there are really too many and this would spam my mailbox with hundreds of changes each day... in the last couple days I have received more than 2000 notifications </span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">(sic!!!!)</span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">by mail ***only from Meta*** and this continues — of course I won't pass hours checking all of them as I cannot be as fast as this volume : most of these notifications coming from the FuzzyBot when pages are moved but also each time review a translated page and just click on the approve button without changing anything...</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">Notifications about watched pages need to be reworked and they should also be grouped to avoid sending one mail per notification notably in FuzzyBot when a translated page with many units is moved as this sends several hundreds of emails. In fact I would appreciate if these notifications were grouped by contributor and paced down : these notifications can be delayed for about one hour. And there should also be a way to not receive all these notifications but just one saying that I have *some* notifications pointing to a special page listing them all with a way to sort it (essentially by user) and to mark those that I have read and want to discard, just like I can sort and mark emails in my mailbox.</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">All this should be integrated in MediaWiki within a "Special:Inbox" listing all "Echo" notifications and probably later should work as if it was a email box with folders (and a way to sort notifs in these folders using some custom filters, or manuallly like by moving one or more notifs manually into another folder). And this page should also be used for messages in our talk page using one of the proposed extensions (LiquidThread or other). This would become our local on-wiki mailbox (and ideally we should be able to redirect messages from one wiki to the managed mailbox of another, using some predefined filters; or send a single notification from one wiki to another stating that it there are notifications on another wiki,to inform us that there are someting there : this would save our regular mailbox and would reduce a lot the volume of emails sent by Wikimedia).</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">And may be in the future, Wikiemdia will work like a social network with groups, applications, a customized wall, integrating also our own activity on Wikimedia... Users could subscribe some threads of notifications for various projects (and it would be fun of notifications were using a RSS format (after all notifications are not editable pages, they are threads coming from various sources and all we need is to subbscribe/unscribe them). We could monitor this way changes from lots of places (not just in Wikis, but also in Bugzilla, blogs, and MassMessage...).</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-31 6:24 GMT+02:00 Vira Motorko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vira.motorko@gmail.com" target="_blank">vira.motorko@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">Hello,</div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">You can now add pages to your </span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Watchlist" title="Special:Watchlist" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;padding:0px!important;background-image:none!important" target="_blank">watchlist</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px"> directly on </span><a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UnwatchedPages" title="Special:UnwatchedPages" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px;padding:0px!important;background-image:none!important" target="_blank">Special:UnwatchedPages</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:21px">, without having to leave the page.<br>
</span>(<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translations:Tech/News/2014/23/10/en" target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Translations:Tech/News/2014/23/10/en</a>)</blockquote><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">
<br></div><div style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:rgb(12,52,61)">I think it will be useful to add that this special page is for admins only.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div>
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</div><div class="gmail_quote">2014-05-31 2:40 GMT+03:00 Tomasz W. Kozłowski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:twkozlowski@gmail.com" target="_blank">twkozlowski@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi!<br>
The latest issue of the Tech News bulletin is ready for early<br>
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<a href="https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2014/23" target="_blank">https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2014/23</a><br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
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