<div dir="ltr"><div><div>OK now at least we've got a link to Metawiki containing all other updated translations, but this is less visible, the notification received on Talk page may be outdated or not translated at all, or just partly translated, and there's no way to reedit all these user talk pages later after the initial post.</div>
</div><div><br></div>But couldn't we transmit these news in templates for the delivery to Wikimedia wikis ? It would allow controlling the content that all users on that wiki will receive and see, and correct it (or translate it there if this was not done) in one place, so that all local users will benefir from these corrections.<div>
<br></div><div style>What I mean, the bot would use a different scheme for posting to the Template: namespace of that wiki : instead of adding a new section, it would create a subpage of a given main template name, and would possibly change the content of that main template to be a simple redirect to the appropriate subpage created by the bot.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Then instead of posting the full content of the news to each user talk page of that wiki, it would send just add a title for the new heading, just followed by the transclusion of the template subpage (this would also reduce the amount of wikitext posted to each talk page, meaning also less work for the Bot posting them to subscribers).</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I suggest subpages, with the base template name in the language of that wiki, and the subpage named with the date. controbutors on local wikis themselves could organize these subpages in categories if needed, or would just list them by listing pages with the same common prefixes in their name, the list being generated on the main template page by a simple search for this prefix, or by other local means.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>As an additional benefit, a "Fuzzybot" could then update these local templates more easily than trying to modify talk pages, once the translations have progressed on MetaWiki.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Also I wonder if your bot can post on talk pages organized with LiquidThread (but here again transcluding the template instead of the text would also help).</div><div style><br></div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/6/16 Tomasz W. Kozlowski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomasz@twkozlowski.net" target="_blank">tomasz@twkozlowski.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
(Apologies for possibly breaking the thread — I've just re–enabled mail delivery from this list.)<br>
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Hi Philippe,<br>
thank you for your comments and ideas; I really appreciate your taking the time to post your thoughts on how to make Tech News better.<br>
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As far as I know, Tech News is the first global weekly newsletter that is being regularly translated into around 5-6 languages, so we're learning from our mistakes and really blazing the trail here[1].<br>
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Back to the topic, I would agree with Niklas: since we're trying not to change things that are repeated in every issue if not absolutely required to (though I myself have changed a couple of <tvar> recently), it should be possible for you to use existing translations from the translation memory. Using templates would, in my opinion, only complicate the matters and make it harder for us to send the issue to local talk pages and village pumps (but I think Guillaume would know more about this).<br>
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For now, we changed the publication time to Saturday evening, UTC time, for reasons stated by Guillaume. /This particular/ issue was published around 8 PM UTC (10 PM Geneva time) — do you think it'll be helpful if we tried to publish the issues a bit earlier, for instance at around 8 PM Geneva time (6 PM UTC)?<br>
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We still aim to have the issue posted globally in 24 hours after following the publication, so this probably wouldn't change much, but still — if that'll help you, then I guess we can think it over.<br>
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== References ==<br>
* [1] There is of course, Wikimedia Highlights and there was Wikimedia Quatro before that, but the former is a monthly, and the latter was a, well, quarterly...<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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-- Tomasz</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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