[teampractices] Setting norms for points field in Phabricator

Adam Baso abaso at wikimedia.org
Thu Feb 18 19:21:56 UTC 2016


I agree with what you say about points should be estimated by the engineers
and points comparisons are verboten.

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Joel Aufrecht <jaufrecht at wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> The points field is now global to all tasks, raising some interesting
> questions:
>
> 1) What do engineers/product owners (staff or otherwise) working on tasks
> do when community members set or change points?
>
> 2) What should we do about making points consistent across teams?
>
> My initial thoughts/proposal, which we could run past teams we are working
> with and engaged community members:
>
> 1) we should have a written policy along the lines that points is intended
> to be used by people doing the engineering work on tasks, and that
> therefore only those people (staff on teams working on tasks; community
> members contributing code/testing/other engineering work) should edit
> points.
>
> 2) We should explictly document that points cannot be compared across
> teams, that there is no single standard definition or meaning for points,
> and that they cannot be used in isolation to forecast.  In an analogy, I
> see points as a bit like database ID fields; even if they are exposed, you
> can't use them for certain things you may be tempted to use them for,
> because they are warranteed for that use; instead, you should use the
> appropriate derivation for your purpose.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> *--Joel Aufrecht*
> Team Practices Group
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
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