[teampractices] Mingle

Jared Zimmerman jared.zimmerman at wikimedia.org
Mon Mar 24 18:30:53 UTC 2014


Nice find Anne.



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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Anne Gomez <agomez at wikimedia.org> wrote:

> Fundraising is still on mingle...
>
> I just learned about a chrome extension called Scrum for Trello [1] that
> apparently solves some of the estimation & reporting issues. I haven't had
> a chance to look into it beyond installing the extension, so I can't verify
> whether it really addresses what you/we would be looking for. Just throwing
> the option out there as you're digging.
>
> 1.
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/scrum-for-trello/jdbcdblgjdpmfninkoogcfpnkjmndgje?hl=en
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Steven Walling <swalling at wikimedia.org>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:04 AM, Toby Negrin <tnegrin at wikimedia.org>wrote:
>>
>>> The analytics team has tried really hard to use Mingle as our agile
>>> planning tool but we've reached the point where the ROI just isn't there
>>> and we need to re-assess our use of it.
>>>
>>> I'm looking for some feedback from teams that have migrated from Mingle
>>> -- primarily what did you migrate to and are you happy with the decision to
>>> move.
>>>
>>> Ultimately, we'd like to use whatever the Foundation agrees on but in
>>> the short term we need to make some choices.
>>>
>>
>> The Growth team migrated to Trello from Mingle more than a year ago and
>> we're much happier. IIRC we actually quit using a specialized tool in
>> between, and just did wiki documentation for everything. Mingle just has
>> terrible UX, and Trello works much better for a cross-functional team doing
>> lighter small-a agile work. I think the Research & Data side of the
>> Analytics team is also already using Trello (correct?).
>>
>> Trello is great, but it just doesn't do points estimation and reporting
>> without some hacks. I would recommend that the Analytics migrate to it
>> anyway, with the big caveat that we may want to explore encouraging all
>> teams *slowly* and surely to switch to Phabricator (test instance at
>> fab.wmflabs.org). That's a long term decision based on the results of
>> the project management tools review though, and with blockers in Ops and
>> Platform to support migration, etc. It will be discussed both on
>> mediawiki.org and in Zurch at the hackathon, so if Analytics team
>> members can I would encourage participation in both venues. In any case,
>> the good side of Trello is that we can download/export our data as needed,
>> and it's lightweight enough that a short term switch to it will not be that
>> painful even if in another six-twelve months you might want to switch
>> again.
>>
>> Let me know if I can help Analytics set up Trello (I am an admin on our
>> WMF account there). The tool is much more flexible to configure than
>> Mingle, and I could walk you through some of the options.
>>
>> --
>> Steven Walling,
>> Product Manager
>> https://wikimediafoundation.org/
>>
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