<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>Zeljko, Thank you for approving my email. <br></div><div>Chris, Quilm Thank you for sending me other helpful links. I read about manual features testing, browser testing using cucumber, and about saw the video about the new tool article-feedback. I find both browser testing and article feedback interesting. Well, I do not have any experience with cucumber, but I would love to learn it through browser testing on wikimedia. At the same time, I would like to test the article feedback tool too. </div>
<div>I do not exactly remember how I came to know about how one could contribute as a tester to wikipedia, but there is a possibility that I read about it at <a href="http://thesocialtester.co.uk/volunteering-a-good-way-to-learn-testing/">http://thesocialtester.co.uk/volunteering-a-good-way-to-learn-testing/</a> !!</div>
<div>Well, let me know how and when I can start!!!!!</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Renuka</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 1:24 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:qa-request@lists.wikimedia.org" target="_blank">qa-request@lists.wikimedia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Re: Jenkins cleanup (Željko Filipin)<br>
2. Contribute as a software tester (Renuka Alurkar)<br>
3. Re: green builds! (Željko Filipin)<br>
4. a failure analysis example (Chris McMahon)<br>
5. Re: Contribute as a software tester (Chris McMahon)<br>
6. Re: repeating tests for logged in and anon users (Chris McMahon)<br>
7. Re: Contribute as a software tester (Quim Gil)<br>
8. Re: Jenkins cleanup (James Forrester)<br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:27:41 +0200<br>
From: Željko Filipin <<a href="mailto:zfilipin@wikimedia.org">zfilipin@wikimedia.org</a>><br>
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:49 PM, James Forrester<br>
<<a href="mailto:jforrester@wikimedia.org">jforrester@wikimedia.org</a>>wrote:<br>
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> Great news; would it be possible to do this for VisualEditor next? :-)<br>
><br>
> In terms of location,<br>
> modules/ve-mw/test<br>
> /browser would make most sense (and in time splitting some of them out to<br>
> modules/ve/test<br>
> /browser for the tests that are not specific to the MediaWiki version of<br>
> VE).<br>
><br>
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Done:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81486/" target="_blank">https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81486/</a><br>
<a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81490" target="_blank">https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81490</a><br>
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The first Jenkins job is here:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/view/r-ve/" target="_blank">https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/view/r-ve/</a><br>
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As soon as the test code is merged into master branch of VisualEditor<br>
repository, I will run the Jenkins job (and create more jobs if needed).<br>
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Comments, patches and merges into master are welcome. :)<br>
<br>
Željko<br>
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Hi,<br>
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I am interested in contributing as a software tester at Wikimedia. At this<br>
time, I would like to start with manual testing of new features or Features<br>
testing. Please let me know how and where do I begin?<br>
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Best,<br>
Renuka<br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 15:48:51 +0200<br>
From: Željko Filipin <<a href="mailto:zfilipin@wikimedia.org">zfilipin@wikimedia.org</a>><br>
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Hi Amir,<br>
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apologies for the late reply. I was traveling a lot lately, I am still<br>
catching up on e-mail. Comments are inline.<br>
<br>
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <<br>
<a href="mailto:amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il">amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I'd really love to have all tests report failures and successes to<br>
> Gerrit, as it is with Jenkins. I believe that it's not happening now,<br>
> though I might be wrong. Are there any more details about it?<br>
><br>
<br>
It is not happening right now. I am chatting with Antoine (hashar) in<br>
#wikimedia-dev about that at the moment.<br>
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Antoine, what do we need to do to make it happen?<br>
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Željko<br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:30:46 -0700<br>
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This example is *so* going to be in the presentation Sept. 18:<br>
<a href="https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53360" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53360</a>, thanks James.<br>
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<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-09-18" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Meetings/2013-09-18</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:38:08 -0700<br>
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 8:26 PM, Renuka Alurkar <<a href="mailto:renukaalurkar@gmail.com">renukaalurkar@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I am interested in contributing as a software tester at Wikimedia. At this<br>
> time, I would like to start with manual testing of new features or Features<br>
> testing. Please let me know how and where do I begin?<br>
><br>
<br>
Hi Renuka,<br>
<br>
You could start by reading <a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/QA</a> and asking any<br>
questions you might have.<br>
You can see the sort of things that interest people on this list by reading<br>
the archives: <a href="http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/qa/" target="_blank">http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/qa/</a><br>
Our ongoing projects are noted here<br>
<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Engineering</a>, most of which could benefit<br>
from QA attention.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
> Renuka<br>
><br>
><br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:45:06 -0700<br>
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To: "QA (software quality assurance) for Wikimedia projects."<br>
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On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <<br>
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> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I committed<br>
> <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81246/" target="_blank">https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81246/</a><br>
><br>
> It basically repeats the same tests for logged in and for anon users.<br>
> Is there a more robust way to do it?<br>
><br>
<br>
There probably is.<br>
<br>
As you may recall, I wrote these tests very quickly back in May based on<br>
information that we had at that time from Runa. She had devoted<br>
significant effort to checking that features were enabled and disabled<br>
properly for anonymous users and for logged-in users, so the tests cover<br>
both conditions in great detail.<br>
<br>
Now that ULS is more mature it might make sense to make the tests shorter<br>
and spend less detail on parity for anonymous and logged-in users.<br>
<br>
Should we open a Bugzilla ticket to refactor ULS tests for duplication<br>
between anonymous and logged-in users?<br>
-Chris<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי<br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:56:34 -0700<br>
From: Quim Gil <<a href="mailto:qgil@wikimedia.org">qgil@wikimedia.org</a>><br>
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Welcome Renuka! We are happy to see you here.<br>
<br>
On 08/27/2013 08:26 PM, Renuka Alurkar wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> I am interested in contributing as a software tester at Wikimedia. At<br>
> this time, I would like to start with manual testing of new features or<br>
> Features testing. Please let me know how and where do I begin?<br>
<br>
This week we are deploying a new search engine at <a href="http://mediawiki.org" target="_blank">http://mediawiki.org</a> -<br>
as a first step to end up revamping the search backend for Wikipedia ad<br>
the rest of Wikimedia projects. Would this be something you are interested?<br>
<br>
We hope to have specific instructions for testers later today. In the<br>
meantime, if you want to learn about Search see<br>
<br>
The extension that will provide Elastic Search in substitution of the<br>
Lucene based search used until now:<br>
<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CirrusSearch" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CirrusSearch</a><br>
<br>
Everything yo wanted to know about Search in MediaWiki: :)<br>
<a href="https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search" target="_blank">https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Search</a><br>
<br>
PS: if you let us know more about your interests we might be able to<br>
point you to other projects. How did you find us?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Quim Gil<br>
Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation<br>
<a href="http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil" target="_blank">http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 11:23:44 -0700<br>
From: James Forrester <<a href="mailto:jforrester@wikimedia.org">jforrester@wikimedia.org</a>><br>
To: "QA (software quality assurance) for Wikimedia projects."<br>
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Subject: Re: [QA] Jenkins cleanup<br>
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On 28 August 2013 06:27, Željko Filipin <<a href="mailto:zfilipin@wikimedia.org">zfilipin@wikimedia.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 6:49 PM, James Forrester <<a href="mailto:jforrester@wikimedia.org">jforrester@wikimedia.org</a><br>
> > wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Great news; would it be possible to do this for VisualEditor next? :-)<br>
>><br>
>> In terms of location,<br>
>> modules/ve-mw/test<br>
>> /browser would make most sense (and in time splitting some of them out<br>
>> to<br>
>> modules/ve/test<br>
>> /browser for the tests that are not specific to the MediaWiki version of<br>
>> VE).<br>
>><br>
><br>
> Done:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81486/" target="_blank">https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81486/</a><br>
> <a href="https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81490" target="_blank">https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81490</a><br>
><br>
> The first Jenkins job is here:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/view/r-ve/" target="_blank">https://wmf.ci.cloudbees.com/view/r-ve/</a><br>
><br>
> As soon as the test code is merged into master branch of VisualEditor<br>
> repository, I will run the Jenkins job (and create more jobs if needed).<br>
><br>
> Comments, patches and merges into master are welcome. :)<br>
><br>
<br>
Thanks! :-)<br>
<br>
J.<br>
--<br>
James D. Forrester<br>
Product Manager, VisualEditor<br>
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.<br>
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<a href="mailto:jforrester@wikimedia.org">jforrester@wikimedia.org</a> | @jdforrester<br>
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