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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In continuation of this, I started discussion on Commons Village Pump (<a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Should_categories_be_in_front_of_interwikis_or_other_way_around.3F">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Should_categories_be_in_front_of_interwikis_or_other_way_around.3F</a> ) about order of different parts of wikicode and Pywikipediabot attempts to standardize it. In particular I asked for opinions about preferred order of category and interwiki sections. If any of you are running Pywikipedia bots on Commons, I would like to invite you to this discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jarek T.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(user:Jarekt)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pywikipedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:pywikipedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Merlijn van Deen<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2011 2:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> Pywikipedia discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Pywikipedia-l] Interwiki.py on Commons<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello Jarek,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 28 November 2011 06:14, Tuszynski, Jaroslaw W. <<a href="mailto:JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@saic.com">JAROSLAW.W.TUSZYNSKI@saic.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Apparently on Commons there is no standard if<br>categories go before interwikis or interwikis before categories, and<br>according to blocking admin, bots are expected to leave the page in the<br>order in which they found it.<br><br>(...) <o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Is there any easy solution to this problem?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>No, not really. At the moment, what happens is this: first, all interwiki links are removed from the page. Then, they are added to the bottom of the page.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is - in general - a hard problem to work with. For instance, how should a page like<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"blah text [[en:interwiki]] blah blah<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[[fr:interwiki]]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[[nl:interwiki]]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[[category:cat]]"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>be adapted? And how should a page like<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>"blah text<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[[fr:interwiki]]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[[category:cat]]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[[nl:interwiki]]"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>be adapted?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Changing the output to a different, but well-defined order is not that hard. Determining the correct order is. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In this case, there are two options: thinking up some heuristic and implementing it, or doing some politics ('hey, if you don't *want* interwikis....'). <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you want to work on the heuristic, the <span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;background:white'>replaceLanguageLinks </span>function in pywikibot/textlib.py is where you'd want to start.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good luck (with either method ;-))!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Merlijn<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>