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This whole topic is going hot on heave on his talk page, starting
with his proposal which I mention in my response on the
proposalbelow:<br>
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<dd>What if it was far more limited: <i>WMF hires mediators to do
mediation and to train and monitor volunteer mediators.
Mediation would be voluntary but it is likely Admins and
Arbitrators would not look well on those who refused to engage
in mediation or obviously did not take it seriously once they
agreed to it.</i></dd>
<dd>I was in one mediation around 2007-8 on a really controversial
topic. The mediator was inexperienced and had to start over at
one point; but it still was extremely effective and greatly
diminished edit warring among a few editors over several
articles. However after that I couldn't find mediators for a one
or two issues that had been accepted for mediation because no
moderators were available, so I didn't try again for a few
years. When I did four people wanted it; two refused on
questionable grounds. The issue went to arbitration but
Arbitrators didn't take the mediation issue seriously, perhaps
because it was known that there aren't many mediators or they
aren't effective.</dd>
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<p>Of course it's been ignored, but there are some thoughtful
comments there. And a lot of drama with a couple guys who defend
their right to be "uncivil" quitting.<br>
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<p>While I was on my best behavior with constructive comments
throughout, I did have to say at one point that those who support
incivility should at least not have a double standard against
women being equally uncivil. "What good for the goose is good for
the gander."<br>
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<p>Later my roommate explained to me the gander is the MALE not the
female! So it took me 66 years to figure it out. Maybe others are
similarly confused?? I guess from now on just to make myself
perfectly clear I'll say "Whats good for the male gander is good
for the female goose."<br>
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<p>Ai, yi, yi!!<br>
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<p>CM<br>
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