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    I also believe that ArbCom _could_ provide good solutions for these
    situations, but the existing model isn't very scalable and doesn't
    work for many cases. One potential solution would be for ArbCom to
    offer the services of a "prosecutor" for certain cases, when the
    person bringing the complaint doesn't want to be subjected to
    further harassment. The problem with ArbCom currently is that you
    have to have a very tough skin to go through the process, and in
    many cases it just makes things worse in the short term (which can
    last for months).<br>
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    Ryan Kaldari<br>
    <br>
    On 10/27/11 11:50 PM, Gillian White wrote:
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cite="mid:CAMrpCZUsTxgBarUttidO=q26LcL8V0K+kqRjELqwbTBRN_0oYA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Apologies for the formatting - the machine stripped
      the breaks that would have made my post readable. Grrrr (I'm a
      workman blaming the tools ...) It should have looked like this:<br>
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                  <font size="2">I’d like to agree with Daniel that
                    “purgative rituals” should
                    be added to the repertoire of ways to deal with
                    these very difficult problems.
                    In modern times, the label for this is
                    behaviourally-based change or
                    [[behaviour modification]] and it works better than
                    exclusion or punitive
                    strikes. As Daniel said, these methods remind people
                    what the point of things
                    is (things like other people and the society we all
                    have to work in) and they
                    provide a way forward. Exclusion, excommunication,
                    imprisonment, whatever you
                    call it in the real world, is like banning – it not
                    only loses any contribution
                    they can make but more importantly, gives time and
                    space for anger and
                    resentment to build and then burst out when the
                    opportunity arises (in this
                    case when the block expires). </font></p>
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                  class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">Dealing with graffiti
                    is an examples of this in operation –
                    punishing and ranting at them gives them the fame
                    they seek, so what works best
                    is painting it over quickly. In WP terms this is
                    reverting but it doesn’t work
                    for this level of incivility, I suggest this is
                    because the motivation is
                    power, not fame (or possibly power as well as fame).
                    That brings us back to the “collaborative goal
                    setting” that
                    Daniel suggests.</font></p>
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                  class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">Perhaps some options
                    chosen by the individual could be added
                    to Daniel’s idea of editing – it could be any
                    quantifiable, self-chosen contribution, including
                    editing some other favourite topic or being a
                    wikignome or wikifairy etc. Or, the person could
                    work one-on-one with someone from an
                    opposing point of view to reach consensus on another
                    sort of article. These are
                    productive responses, the goal of which should be to
                    keep the person productively engaged and have them
                    experience their work as valued. <br>
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                  class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">Other organisations
                    have to deal with anti-social behaviour
                    and perhaps we could learn from them. </font><font
                    size="2">The excuse that they are “making such good
                    contributions”, for example, has also confronted
                    other industries/ organisations. Some groups use the
                    money
                    they pay for a service as an excuse for appalling
                    behaviour. Examples include
                    drunken football teams being </font><font size="2">destructive
                  </font><font size="2">in aeroplanes (the airlines have
                    had to ban some
                    teams) or rock stars in hotels (making the behaviour
                    public helps get pressure for
                    change in these cases).</font></p>
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                  class="MsoNormal"><font size="2"> It is very similar
                    to customer complaints
                    that every organisation has to deal with. When I
                    worked on this for a big
                    organisation, I found that the customer complaints
                    process ranged across and
                    touched on everything from the trivial to the
                    criminal and the process needed to
                    take account of that range. So adding this tool
                    (i.e. working on the
                    encyclopaedia in some other way before being banned)
                    to the box should help.</font></p>
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                  class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">In intractable cases,
                    banning will be the only solution, but
                    for the middle range of people who once enjoyed
                    contributing productively,
                    being given a “cooling off” period in which they can
                    return to that for a while
                    might work. </font></p>
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                  class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">I am assuming that
                    ArbCom is the most appropriate place for
                    these kinds of resolutions to be handled because it
                    is not likely to be
                    feasible for every admin to hand out such
                    injunctions, nor would they be
                    enforceable. Does ArbCom consider that behavioural
                    disputes are as worthy of
                    arbitration as content disputes? If not, is there a
                    reason? If they do consider
                    such intractable (and apparently easily
                    identifiable) cases as within their
                    scope, can these approaches be introduced to their
                    repertoire of sanctions?</font></p>
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                  class="MsoNormal"><font size="2">Thankfully, I have
                    never had to deal with these types of
                    people on WP, but if I did, it would chase me away.
                    While I think the issue is
                    broader than the gender one, they are inextricably
                    related.</font></p>
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