<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Ryan,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>Creating galleries would mitigate the problem for these half-dozen searches (though not eliminate it, as users would still have the option of searching Commons rather than navigating to a Commons page). </div><div><br></div><div>But it's like the story of the Dutch boy trying to plug a hole in the levee with his finger. (Searching for "levee" in Commons brings up an image of a naked Suicide Girl called Levee in third place.)</div><div><br></div><div><div>We should be under no illusion that we can find all search terms whose results violate the principle of least surprise, presenting adult images for everyday search terms. </div><div><br></div><div>New such situations arise on a daily basis, each time someone uploads an explicit file that has a plausible
search term in its name and description (try searching Commons for "eating", and then search for "drinking"; or try finding images of Prince Albert).</div><div><br></div></div><div>We should simply offer safe search, like Google does. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Andreas</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari@wikimedia.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 13 October 2011, 19:31<br><b><span style="font-weight:
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One easy way to fix all of these searches is to create Gallery pages
for these terms. If a gallery page for "cucumber" existed, all
searches for "cucumber" would go immediately to that gallery page
rather than pulling up random images.<br>
<br>
Ryan Kaldari<br>
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On 10/12/11 3:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
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<div><span>Thanks for the link, Brandon. </span></div>
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<div><span>I had raised this in the image filter discussions on
Foundation-l yesterday (as well as on </span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kurier">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Kurier</a> ),
and it seems to have triggered some thought, which is all for
the good.</div>
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<div>Here are searches that deliver similar results in Wikipedia
and Commons:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>pearl necklace</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>cucumber</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Zahnbürste (German for toothbrush)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>toothbrush</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>electric toothbrushes</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>jumping ball</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>underwater</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>... and likely many, many others.</div>
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<div>Andreas</div>
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<hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b>
Brandon Harris <a rel="nofollow" class="yiv1064143482moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:bharris@wikimedia.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:bharris@wikimedia.org"><bharris@wikimedia.org></a><br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Wednesday, 12 October 2011, 21:31<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Gendergap] Commons Searches<br>
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Funnily, I just answered that question on Quora:<br>
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<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-second-image-returned-on-Wikimedia-Commons-when-one-searches-for-electric-toothbrush-an-image-of-a-female-masturbating">http://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-second-image-returned-on-Wikimedia-Commons-when-one-searches-for-electric-toothbrush-an-image-of-a-female-masturbating</a><br>
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On 10/12/11 7:48 AM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:<br>
> Brandon,<br>
><br>
> On a matter that originally arose in Meta and on
the Foundation list,<br>
> but may be of interest to this list as well, do you
know the answer to the<br>
> question posed here ...<br>
><br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-October/006290.html">http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-October/006290.html</a><br>
><br>
> ... or do you know someone who does?<br>
><br>
> Andreas<br>
><br>
>
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> *To:* Increasing female participation in
Wikimedia projects<br>
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, 12 October 2011, 6:13<br>
> *Subject:* Re: [Gendergap] Mind the Gap Award is
here.<br>
><br>
> (offlist)<br>
><br>
> I think your efforts are perfect, and above and
beyond. I don't need to<br>
> step in here.<br>
><br>
><br>
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> On 10/11/11 10:10 PM, Jutta von Dincklage wrote:<br>
> > Brandon, I still think we need to remake
the logo. This was just<br>
> a quick, basic whiz.<br>
> > I would still love your graphic skills on
this one if you can<br>
> spare the time<br>
> ><br>
> > ... cause I am a woman and I truly
appreciate amazing design<br>
> > ... and this award deserves it ;-)<br>
> ><br>
> >> Ah, too fast for me! I was about to
remake the entire thing, but got<br>
> >> stuck trying to find an acceptable
replacement font (the real<br>
> one is for<br>
> >> sale at the princely sum of
$299.00!).<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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