<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Leilah,<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I can see a number of the e-mails attached below, but it seems your first mail (or at any</div><div><br></div><div>rate the beginning of the conversation), is missing. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Could you outline for us what you said in your original mail? Basically, people here are</div><div><br></div><div>aware of the problem, are trying to work on it, and further data or specific observations are</div><div><br></div><div>welcome.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Andreas</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>--- On <b>Fri, 7/10/11, leilah ozaibi <i><email.leilah@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br><div id="yiv2127979632"><div>Hi there
Michael, I've attempted to cut and paste the emails. Are you able to see them now?</div><div><br></div><div>Leilah</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class="yiv2127979632Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);font-size:medium;"><div class="yiv2127979632h7 " style="clear:both;padding-bottom:0px;">
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<div>Hello Dear Wikipedia,<div><br></div><div>I would like to bring to your attention the aesthetic variations between pictorials relating to the human reproductive organs (genitals). </div><div><br></div><div>The main observation is the aesthetic variances between the human male and human female depictions of genitals. </div>
<div><br></div><div>It is also interesting to note the ratio of male genital depictions versus female genital depictions. </div><div><br></div><div>Would it not be more consistent to use a more balanced and cohesive aesthetic style across the whole subject of human reproduction and sexuality?</div>
<div><br></div><div>I look forward to your response, and thank you in advance. </div><div><br></div><div>With regards,</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Leilah</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></font></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);">Hi Aaron,</span><div><font color="#202020" face="'Droid Sans', arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div><div><font color="#202020" face="'Droid Sans', arial, sans-serif">Thanks for your quick response. </font></div><div><font color="#202020" face="'Droid Sans', arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div>
<div><font color="#202020" face="'Droid Sans', arial, sans-serif">C</font><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);">ensorship was not the basis of my observation, and apologies if this was unclear. </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);">I hold the belief that Wikimedia is pro-active in moderating content for balance regardless of position on censorship etcetera.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);">I, too, don't necessarily like censorship especially where education is concerned. </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);"><br></span></div><div><font color="#202020" face="'Droid Sans', arial, sans-serif">That said, it </font><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);">seems there is some inadvert self-censorship of male </span><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);">human genitalia taking effect on Wikipedia.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);">Your response suggests this is by the contributors themselves. </span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);">I don't want to scare you (I really don't), but it might be interesting for Wikimedia to note the ratio of male to female contributors.</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(32, 32, 32);">In any case, thanks again.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv2127979632iA yiv2127979632g6" style="padding-left:5px;color:rgb(119, 119, 119);vertical-align:top;white-space:nowrap;">Dear Leilah Ozaibi, The ratio of contributors is quite imbalanced: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://com.">http://com.</a>..</div>
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<div>Hi, I would just like to add that I am embarrassed for you in making the assumption that my observations are based on censorship. <div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">L</font><div><div><span id="yiv2127979632q_132df10d8b13d6f5_2" class="yiv2127979632h4" style="cursor:pointer;color:rgb(80, 0, 80);font-size:9px;">- Show quoted text -</span></div>
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<div>OK, thanks for being so open about that. A gender gap is not unusual. :) <div><br></div><div>I'm not sure how I could/can help. </div><div><br></div><div>Maybe, at this point in the development of Wikipedia, the gender ratio of moderators is another way... </div>
<div><br></div><div>But I guess moderators are appointed on the basis of their input as contributors... </div><div><br></div><div>I'm sure Wikipedia is working on it. </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks and best for the day,</div>
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<div><div>Hi again, here is a (somewhat outdated) article on the gender ratio of teachers in London. </div><div><br></div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23373976-discipline-fears-as-female-teachers-outnumber-male-peers-by-12-to-1.do" style="color:rgb(103, 117, 58);">http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23373976-discipline-fears-as-female-teachers-outnumber-male-peers-by-12-to-1.do</a><div>
<br></div><div>Some food for thought on those mailing lists, perhaps? Why not approach schools for contributors? If you haven't already. :)</div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Leilah</div></font><div><div>
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<div>OK! Thanks! Presumably there is no other way for me.<div><br></div><div>Have a good weekend. </div><div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Leilah</div></font><div><div><span id="yiv2127979632q_132df245727ba206_2" class="yiv2127979632h4" style="cursor:pointer;color:rgb(80, 0, 80);font-size:9px;">- Show quoted text -</span></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div><div><br></div><br><br><div class="yiv2127979632gmail_quote">On 7 October 2011 18:00, Michael J. Lowrey <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:orangemike@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=orangemike@gmail.com">orangemike@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv2127979632gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv2127979632im">On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:55 AM, leilah ozaibi <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:email.leilah@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=email.leilah@gmail.com">email.leilah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi, I'm writing with regard to the topics raised in the email trail below.<br>
> Any thoughts or comments on the topics raised would be great.<br>
> Thanks in advance, and regards,<br>
> Leilah<br>
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</div>Alas, the email trail in question did not accompany your message.<br>
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