<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>It would perfectly work!</span></div><div><span>La usuaria - el usuario</span></div><div><span>La editora - el editor</span></div><div><br> </div><div>Spanish contains good inspiring examples, because we have at the same time a female article "la(s)" and a male article "el/los", and several sufixes denoting the difference of gender. In the above examples you can see both elements at the same time.</div><div> </div><div>Moreover, the <em>Diccionario de la lengua española</em> <a href="http://www.rae.es">www.rae.es</a> contains innovative changes toward a more sensitive approach to gender. It recognises, for example, the use of "la Presidenta", and not only "la Presidente", for a woman with this function. (n fact, it goes beyond the logical evolution of the Latin
words.</div><div> </div><div>Ibero and Iberoamerican region has the less gender gap at scientific level (in the statistic of UNESCO). Is there a relation with the Spanish?</div> (Of course, German, Greek and other languages have these tools too).<div> </div><div> </div><div>best regards,</div><div>Patricia</div><div> </div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="hr" contentEditable="false" readonly="true"></div><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Andreas Kolbe <jayen466@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> patricia morales <mariadelcarmenpatricia@yahoo.com>; Increasing female
participation in Wikimedia projects <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:12 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedystka<br></font><wbr>
<div id="yiv1308082570"><table border="0" cellSpacing="0" cellPadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" vAlign="top"><div>Wouldn't the obvious thing in the Spanish Wikipedia be to differentiate between usuario and usuaria? As in Página del usuario / Página de la usuaria?</div><div><wbr></div><div>Andreas<wbr><wbr>--- On <b>Wed, 5/10/11, patricia morales <i><mariadelcarmenpatricia@yahoo.com></i></b> wrote:<wbr><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;"><br>From: patricia morales <mariadelcarmenpatricia@yahoo.com><br>Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedystka<br>To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org><br>Date: Wednesday, 5 October, 2011, 18:10<br><br><div id="yiv1308082570"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new
roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span></span></div><div><wbr></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="yiv1308082570hr"></div><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> patricia morales <mariadelcarmenpatricia@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 5, 2011 12:51 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
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<div id="yiv1308082570"><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><div><span>It seems to me very kind, but not related to the ethymology nor the use of the words (I have not information about Polish).</span></div>
<div><span>In English you have the male suffix -ian and the female suffix -ienne : <a title="comedienne" href="http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/comedienne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">comedienne</a>, <a title="equestrienne" href="http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/equestrienne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">equestrienne</a>, <a title="tragedienne" href="http://us.mg6.mail.yahoo.com/wiki/tragedienne" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">tragedienne</a>.</span></div>
<div><span>At the same time you have the suffix -ist for both gender (coming from -ista (Latin) and -istes (old Greek)</span></div>
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<div><span>In Spanish and other langues with differentiaded articles we have:</span></div>
<div><span>El artista y la artista</span></div>
<div><span>La wikipedista (female editor) and el wikipedista (male editor).</span></div>
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<div><span>In Spanish and other languages it is sometimes used <a rel="nofollow">amig@s</a> for having a gender sensitivity.</span></div>
<div><span>We could use wikipedist@ , explaining that.</span></div>
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<div><span><var id="yiv1308082570yui-ie-cursor"></var>best regards,</span></div>
<div><span>Patricia</span></div>
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<div style="margin: 5px 0px; padding: 0px; border: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); height: 0px; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px;" class="yiv1308082570hr"></div><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Erik Moeller <erik@wikimedia.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 5, 2011 8:18 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Gendergap] Wikipedystka<br></font><wbr>"Wikipedystka", in Polish, describes a female Wikipedian (as opposed<wbr>to the male "wikipedysta"). As of today, Polish female Wikipedians are<wbr>no longer called "wikipedysta" if they choose to publicly identify<wbr>their gender as female.<wbr><wbr>Here are a few
examples:<wbr>http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Tanja5<wbr>http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:Joanna_Ko%C5%9Bmider<wbr>http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedystka:AldraW<wbr><wbr>This is also visible in other places, e.g. recent changes on Polish Wikipedia.<wbr><wbr>This change is a result of the roll-out of a new version of our<wbr>software. Other languages, like German, which also have<wbr>gender-specific terms to describe users, will be upgraded in the<wbr>coming days.<wbr><wbr>It's a small thing, but hopefully it'll make gender diversity (and<wbr>lack thereof) a bit more visible, at least in languages which are more<wbr>expressive than English. ;-)<wbr><wbr>Cheers,<wbr>Erik<wbr><wbr>-- <wbr>Erik Möller<wbr>VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation<wbr><wbr>Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate<wbr><wbr>_______________________________________________<wbr>Gendergap mailing list<wbr><a
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