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    I'm sure all the persecuted fans of "big tits" will appreciate your
    efforts.<br>
    <br>
    Ryan Kaldari<br>
    <br>
    On 5/26/11 5:01 PM, B&eacute;ria Lima wrote:
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      cite="mid:BANLkTimNnyh9R=3za+sA9h32eNshDoo2jQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">carol,<br>
        <br>
        en.wiki aproved that, Commons didn't. You can't use a rule from
        one wiki in another. IF - and that is a BIG if, if commons
        community approve such kind of rules, you people can remove all
        comments you can find....<br>
        <br>
        Until there, is censure, and you people will not do it while i'm
        there to watch commons RC.<br clear="all">
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      <font style="font-family: georgia,serif;" size="2"><i>B&eacute;ria Lima</i></font><br>
      <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wikimedia.pt"
        target="_blank">Wikimedia Portugal</a><br>
      (351) 963 953 042<br>
      <br>
      <i style="color: rgb(153, 153, 153);">Imagine um mundo onde &eacute; dada
        a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao
        somat&oacute;rio de todo o conhecimento humano. &Eacute; isso o que estamos a
        fazer.</i><br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/27 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:carolmooredc@verizon.net">carolmooredc@verizon.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Racist, homophobic and
            anti-semitic comments are certainly criticized and people
            ask for their removal. A pattern of such comments could get
            one banned. The same should be true for obviously sexist
            comments. In fact, it's here<br>
            See <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civil#Identifying_incivility"
              target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civil#Identifying_incivility</a>
            - after a long debate with some editors strongly opposed to
            adding such sexist comments.<br>
            <ul>
              <li>(b) <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks"
                  title="Wikipedia:No personal attacks" target="_blank">personal
                  attacks</a>, including racial, ethnic, sexual,
                gender-related and religious slurs, and derogatory
                references to groups such as social classes or
                nationalities;</li>
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                On 5/26/2011 2:53 PM, Sarah wrote:
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                    <pre>2011/5/26 Ryan Kaldari <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rkaldari@wikimedia.org" target="_blank">&lt;rkaldari@wikimedia.org&gt;</a>
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                      <pre>Those types of comments are a lot worse than unnecessary. They create a
sexualized environment that is exclusionary to anyone who isn't a
heterosexual male. If this doesn't make sense to you, please read through
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment" target="_blank">http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Sexualized_environment</a>

These types of comments should be removed on sight. If you see them,
please delete them or email me. Thanks.
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                  <pre>On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:34, B&eacute;ria Lima <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:beria.lima@wikimedia.pt" target="_blank">&lt;beria.lima@wikimedia.pt&gt;</a> wrote:
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                    <pre>If you start the censure in Commons, Ryan, your cause will be in Adm
noticeboard "on sight"
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B&eacute;ria Lima
Wikimedia Portugal
(351) 963 953 042
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                  <pre>B&eacute;ria, you've rightly asked that people not generalize their
responses, where they assume everyone feels as they do. But the same
applies to you. You're not offended by these comments. You would see
their removal as censorship. Others disagree, and their arguments are
valid too.

It would be interesting if we could try to find common ground.

I agree with you that it's important not to be over-sensitive. But a
big problem is that women have been taught for hundreds of years that
they're just over-reacting when they say they see discrimination.

So the question is: how do we create an environment that's welcoming
for as many groups as possible -- including groups who are sensitive
to perceived discrimination, and groups who are sensitive to perceived
censorship?

Sarah

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