<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="2">--- On </font><b style="font-family: arial; font-size: 10pt; ">Fri, 20/5/11, patricia morales <i><mariadelcarmenpatricia@yahoo.com></i></b><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial" size="2"> wrote:</font><br><blockquote style="font-family: arial; font-size: 10pt; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; "><br>From: patricia morales <mariadelcarmenpatricia@yahoo.com><br>Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Please, a question on deleted article SP "Migrantas" on women´s empowermente<br>To: "Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects" <gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org><br>Cc: "Roberto Fiadone" <ruperto61@yahoo.com.ar><br>Date: Friday, 20 May, 2011, 13:19<br><br><div id="yiv1777408406"><table cellspacing="0"
cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font:inherit;"><div>Dear,</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to draw your attention to the history of article "migrantas" an initiative in Berlin on the empowerment of migrant women, that was deleted by the concept autopromotion and later by the attribution of irrelevance.</div><div>Men and women worked for improving it but it seems without results.</div><div>It would be good to have some suggestions on that.</div><div>best regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Patricia</div></td></tr></tbody></table></div></blockquote><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial"><br></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">Hi Patricia, </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">It looks like the article was deleted because it directly copied text from an</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"
face="arial">existing website, and because it appeared promotional. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">You could try to recreate the article, but would have to write it from the point</font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">of view of third-party sources writing about Migrantas. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">The best sources I can find are:</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; "><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/28/style/28iht-agerm.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/28/style/28iht-agerm.html</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><a
href="http://www.morgenpost.de/printarchiv/berlin/article1608757/Kanzlerin-ueberprueft-Integrationsarbeit-der-Senatoren.html">http://www.morgenpost.de/printarchiv/berlin/article1608757/Kanzlerin-ueberprueft-Integrationsarbeit-der-Senatoren.html</a></div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">I can't see all of that article, but it appears to mention that a "Kollektiv </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">migrantas" won a prize:</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; "><a
href="http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=migrantas+berlin#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&biw=931&bih=670&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&source=hp&q=%22Der+zweite+Platz+ging+an+das+Workshop-Projekt+%22Kollektiv+migrantas%22&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=27f474a4db1a0c60">http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=migrantas+berlin#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&biw=931&bih=670&tbs=ar:1&tbm=nws&source=hp&q=%22Der+zweite+Platz+ging+an+das+Workshop-Projekt+%22Kollektiv+migrantas%22&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=27f474a4db1a0c60</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">The German chancellor seems to have been involved. Winning a prominent</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">award usually helps to establish
notability, justifying an article in Wikipedia.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">There is also a reference here:</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial"><a href="http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZyXnAAAAMAAJ&q=%22migrantas%22+berlin&dq=%22migrantas%22+berlin&hl=en&ei=0HPWTdekEsuo8AOu4IyFCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA">http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZyXnAAAAMAAJ&q=%22migrantas%22+berlin&dq=%22migrantas%22+berlin&hl=en&ei=0HPWTdekEsuo8AOu4IyFCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA</a></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">However, this is not a third-party reference.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"
face="arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">It would help to have more sources. Two good third-party sources may not</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">be enough to pass notability. Perhaps others here can help research the</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">organisation; Spanish sources would be fine too.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">At any rate, if you do want to recreate the article, it would be best to create a</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">draft in your user space</font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; "> </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">first</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; "> and then </span><span class="Apple-style-span"
style="font-family: arial; ">let some editors look at it to advise </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">you </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">as to whether it would survive a </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">deletion request, before putting it in</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: arial; ">article space. </span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">Best,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="arial">Andreas</font></div></td></tr></table>