<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Andreas, </font></div>
<p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Again: Stop canvassing your POV!!! This list (and Commons-l) are not for that.</font></p>
<div>That is my last warning<br clear="all">_____<br><font style="FONT-FAMILY: georgia,serif" size="2"><i>Béria Lima</i></font><br><a href="http://wikimedia.pt/" target="_blank">Wikimedia Portugal</a><br>(351) 963 953 042<br>
<br><i style="COLOR: rgb(153,153,153)">Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.</i><br><br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/18 Andreas Kolbe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jayen466@yahoo.com">jayen466@yahoo.com</a>></span><br>
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<td valign="top">This response here is emblematic of the misogyny and ageism pervading Commons:
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<div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=54489618&oldid=54483841" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=54489618&oldid=54483841</a></div>
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<div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk%3AOn_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg&action=historysubmit&diff=54489618&oldid=54483841" target="_blank"></a>Coming up with "stuff old women like" would actually be a good idea, but I don't think the</div>
<div>contributor meant it that way.</div>
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<div>At this deletion request</div>
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<div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Paleis_lange_voorhout.jpg" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Paleis_lange_voorhout.jpg</a></div>
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<div>I pointed out that the creator of the manga image placed it on a photograph of the Escher </div>
<div>museum, making it appear his image appeared there. This is deceptive, and against </div>
<div>Commons image guidelines. The only response to the deletion request so far is a Keep.</div>
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<div>The request to remove featured status from the Edge of the World manga image, started</div>
<div>independently of our discussions by a Russian Wikipedia editor, is heading for a Keep:</div>
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<div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/removal/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/removal/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg</a></div>
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<div>Here is the original nomination:</div>
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<div><a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Featured_picture_candidates/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg</a></div>
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<div>The image failed to achieve featured status in German Wikipedia:</div>
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<div><a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaten_f%C3%BCr_exzellente_Bilder/Archiv2011/1#On_the_edge_.E2.80.93_2._Januar_bis_16._Januar_-_Contra</a></div>
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<div>7 for, 8 against, which based on objective criteria of artistic and educational merit is still kind</div>
<div>to the image.</div>
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<div>I am thinking of writing a letter to the Commons Village Pump to ask the community to take</div>
<div>a long hard look at its basic competence. </div>
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<div>Sue, any ideas?</div>
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<div>Andreas</div>
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<div><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 17/5/11, Sarah Stierch <i><<a href="mailto:sarah@sarahstierch.com" target="_blank">sarah@sarahstierch.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi dz,<br><br>Great to hear you'd like to be involved. I've been <i>really</i> busy the past few weeks with finishing school, a trip to California, and GLAM related activities (oh and Regional Ambassadorness!) - so I haven't had time to sit down and get my "stuff together" for the HOW-TO. But, I'd love to add you to our HOW-TO gang if you like.<br>
<br>=)<br><br>Sarah<br><br><br>On 5/17/2011 8:17 AM, Deanna Zandt wrote:
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<div><br></div>I'd also be interested in contributing-- the BLP experience of last week was incredibly enlightening, and got me thinking about access... having the right key unlocked a wealth of knowledge and aid. How to make that key more widely available, or second nature/common knowledge? I'm hoping to blog about it soon. In any case, I'd like to come at some of the HOW-TO issues in general from that noob perspective.
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<div>cheers</div>
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<div>On May 16, 2011, at 9:23 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Sarah Stierch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=sarah@sarahstierch.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sarah@sarahstierch.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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</pre></blockquote></div>I'm working on diving into the HOW-TO this summer for Wiki. I do want to see all of these topics covered - and I'll contribute in anyway I can. Where do we start? ;-) </div></blockquote>
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<div>Hi Sarah,</div>
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<div>I'd be really happy to work on this with you! (And anyone else).</div>
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<div>My sense is that there's a lot of work to do in identifying the problem -- or rather, evaluating the collection of interrelated issues, and determining where it's best to focus. The things that seem significant to me are:</div>
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<div>(1) Picture of the Day on Commons often seems to be the source of unnecessary strife (moreso than, say, PotD on English Wikipedia);</div>
<div>(2) It appears that there is not a clearly identified set of editorial values around what DOES constitute a worthwhile PotD on Commons;</div>
<div>(3) The technical and social processes for setting a PotD are difficult to understand and poorly documented.</div>
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<div>How about if we collaborate a bit on documenting how things currently work? I think that process will point the way toward recommending a solution.</div>
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<div>I've set up a page for this project, if you're game! <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Peteforsyth/PotD</a></div>
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