<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">(Sorry, I did not mean to start a new thread. I was trying to respond to an existing thread,<br> and don't know how to format the subject header to do this (wish there were instructions)).<br><br>This is my last post to this thread, and I'll talk more about that at the bottom of the<br>message.<br><br>We do expect our admins to be fair-minded, and on most subjects they
are. However, we<br> also expect our admins to be 18-to-28 year old
childless single males with a particular <br>mindset. They are only human, and I am not decrying this this, simply noting it.<br><br>
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Obviously, most of the problem here with admins and most editors is of the "But what's <br>wrong with the
pinup calender, I just can't understand your objection, please explain it again<br> for the five hundredth time so I can decide if your being insulted is valid" variety.<br><br><br>But that's not true of every single editor.<br><br><br>Oliver, I am not insinuating anything. I am stating something clearly.<br><br><br>I work with these editors very regularly and have for a while. It is very difficult work. I loathe it<br> and often dread sitting down at the keyboard. I very very much prefer doing translations and<br> other work like that. However, if you volunteer to work in the soup kitchen you also have to <br>scrub the pots.<br><br>I know more about this particular narrow subject than probably anyone. It is hard gained <br>knowledge. I know what am talking about. So I don't appreciate the abuse, although I am <br>quite used to it and expect it.<br><br><br>These people - a few editors, but not that few - are very dedicated. Dedication is
admirable,<br> depending on what you are dedicated to. Motivations vary between and even within <br>individuals and are tricky to discern and characterize. I'll just say that these people are not <br>National Organization for Women members and leave it at that.<br><br>I don't offer a solution because I don't have one.<br><br><br>Oliver, I do not appreciate your going into combat stance and also putting me in this <br>position. I didn't start this thread, did not name it HELP, and make no claim for aid on my <br>own behalf. I was pointing out a a couple of people who might be in for a difficult experience<br> and might appreciate a friendly face.<br><br><br>(Actually, the folks I am talking about may have gone to ground for awhile. But they'll be back when you all have moved on.)<br><br><br>Finally Oliver, Fred, and some others - and I'll include myself - not as a matter of being <br>male, but as a matter of being clueless and insensitive
- would it be asking <br>too much for you to back off and give the sisters some space? I have a talk page on the <br>English Wikipedia and am willing to engage there with other males in in combative tests of <br>verbal jousting skill. Not posting to this thread again, suggest some others might consider <br>that also.<br><br><br></td></tr></table><br>