Thanks for clearing that fred, and thank you for expressing that sentiment as well. It means a lot to me to hear you say that. <div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Fred Bauder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fredbaud@fairpoint.net">fredbaud@fairpoint.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">> Well, that what I was responding to!! I find that count to have a bit of<br>
> sexist undertones! Sorry if u thought I was responding to u. I am just<br>
> getting frustrated w/ certain interactions that seem the opposite of what<br>
> we are trying to do here - make women feel comfortable to share and<br>
> brainstorm etc.<br>
><br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
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</div>That message was from Hartmut Semken:<br>
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<a href="http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2011-February/000571.html" target="_blank">http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2011-February/000571.html</a><br>
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who signed themselves "hase" There is a snicklefritz image at<br>
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<a href="http://www.hase.net/" target="_blank">http://www.hase.net/</a><br>
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That has been their only post. I didn't like it either, so much so that<br>
avoided responding to it. It seemed to me to be a woman, "as long as all<br>
<div class="im">men will assume that feminism is about revenge rather than equality,<br>
visions of a female dominated <something> will feel scary.<br>
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</div>Poor guy, i'd say." and seemed to refer to me. That, however, is what he<br>
said, not what I said.<br>
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I think we got trolled.<br>
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Fred<br>
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> On Feb 18, 2011, at 11:41 AM, "Fred Bauder" <<a href="mailto:fredbaud@fairpoint.net">fredbaud@fairpoint.net</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
>>> No man - this is what you sent. A long response for the simple<br>
>>> question I<br>
>>> asked: Are you being serious or funny.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> *sounded serious.<br>
>>><br>
>>> And seriously: being a man under female supprression is not an<br>
>>> appealing<br>
>>> vision, very much like being a woman suppressed by males.<br>
>>><br>
>>> as long as all men will assume that feminism is about revenge rather<br>
>>> than<br>
>>> equality, visions of a female dominated <something> will feel scary.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Poor guy, i'd say.*<br>
>><br>
>> That's from someone else.<br>
>><br>
>> Fred<br>
>><br>
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