So you think the problem with the participation of women is that a lot of our readers are bible-thumpers, and by getting lots of women (specifically <i>Catholic</i> women) involved, we'll destroy the misogynistic parts of faith? Ignoring that as it happens, raw belief is in our nature, and that the vast majority of Americans, bible-thumper or no are <i>not</i> Catholic, you seem to be misunderstanding our community somewhat. You know Conservapedia exists because apparently we're all gay atheist Jews, right? :p Trust me, Misogyny from leftover religious teachings is not going to be a big problem for a large chunk of us. Most of us are atheists, agnostics, or the harmless kind of religious person.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Miguelinito <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:miguelinito@gmail.com">miguelinito@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
What I wanted point out is that one of the causes of the gender gap,<br>
specifically in the United States, is that there is a lot of people<br>
who read the Bible. The Bible is, obviously, sexist, and in fact makes<br>
women in general be submissive. While ideas are separated, they<br>
survive unless they are wrong (that's why Conservapedia was born).<br>
What I propose is to promote catholic women participation, so they<br>
can share their ideas too. Once all ideas are together (catholic and<br>
scientific), the thruth goes without saying, as believing is not in<br>
our human nature, but reasoning. That's my opinion.<br>
<br>
P.S: I don't drop my jaw about the gender gap in the US when I see<br>
that women automatically get their surname *replaced* by the married<br>
name.<br>
<br>
Sorry for not being expressive enough.<br>
<br>
Miguel Ángel<br>
<br>
> Um, this thread seems rather off-topic of our specific purpose here...<br>
<br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Pharos<br>
<br>
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Marc Riddell<br>
> <<a href="mailto:michaeldavid86@comcast.net">michaeldavid86@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> I don't, as a rule, top post. But in this case, since it is a response to<br>
>> both of these messages, it seemed appropriate,<br>
>><br>
>> There was a time, many, many, many years ago; before there was any defined<br>
>> structured social or political group; there was a female, a male, and their<br>
>> offspring. And the female was, in fact, the center of this grouping. She<br>
>> gave life, kept the "home" and nurtured the offspring on a daily basis.<br>
>> While the male, on the other hand was gone most of the time hunting and<br>
>> gathering. As these individual "family groups" began gathering into tribes,<br>
>> then groups of tribes into villages etc., etc. to today, these groups soon<br>
>> required some sort of "leadership". That was when the man said to the woman,<br>
>> "You stay at home, honey, and tend to the hearth, and I'll tend to the<br>
>> business outside, as I have always done". That was when the most insidious<br>
>> transfer of importance and power in the history of humankind took place.<br>
>> Pity. Men began making and enforcing the rules, starting and fighting the<br>
>> wars, writing the books deciding, and defining, what deities we must<br>
>> worship, and generally making a worldwide nuisance of himself.<br>
>><br>
>> Progress?<br>
>><br>
>> Marc Riddell<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> on 2/12/11 5:47 AM, Oliver Keyes at <a href="mailto:scire.facias@gmail.com">scire.facias@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I'm going to go with "because it's a translation of a translation of a<br>
>> translation of a translation of a [positively recurse 50 times] of a<br>
>> translation of a book written by humans, who are fallible, specifically male<br>
>> humans, in a period where gender equality was occasionally allowing your<br>
>> wife to talk, oh, and there's absolutely no evidence the subject of said<br>
>> book existed in the first place".<br>
>><br>
>> Satan crops up twice in the bible. In the mean time, Jezebel, Delilah, Eve<br>
>> and almost every other female character who isn't meek and mild as milk is<br>
>> depicted as being single-handedly responsible for the fall of humanity, the<br>
>> betrayal of Sampson, David's inability to keep his man-parts in his<br>
>> underwear, and everything else that goes wrong with the world. It's no<br>
>> surprise equality has taken so long to even appear on the horizon when<br>
>> people are treating guff like this as an infallible or immutable document.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Miguelinito <<a href="mailto:miguelinito@gmail.com">miguelinito@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Abraham and Sarah were already very old, and Sarah was past the age of<br>
>> childbearing. So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, ³After I am worn<br>
>> out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?²<br>
>><br>
>> Then the LORD said to Abraham, ³Why did Sarah laugh and say, ŒWill I really<br>
>> have a child, now that I am old?¹ Is anything too hard for the LORD? I will<br>
>> return to you at the appointed time next year, and Sarah will have a son.²<br>
>><br>
>> Sarah was afraid, so she lied and said, ³I did not laugh.²<br>
>><br>
>> But he said, ³Yes, you did laugh.²<br>
>><br>
>> There's a couple of questions here:<br>
>><br>
>> 1) Why Almighty God chose to be a man?<br>
>><br>
>> 2) Why did Almighty God get angry with the laughter of a simple female<br>
>> mortal? Would he have gotten angry if she, just for *ignorance*, wouldn't<br>
>> have even made herself that question?<br>
>><br>
>> For all of you who read the Bible, this could be a nice topic for<br>
>> reflection. :)<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Miguel Ángel<br>
>><br>
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