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<div style="ZOOM: 1" dir="ltr"><span id="result_box" class="long_text"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ebeff9" title="Es muy lindo compartir este espacio con ustedes y ver cómo superar este gap.">Dear friends,</span></span></div><div style="ZOOM: 1" dir="ltr"><br></div><div style="ZOOM: 1" dir="ltr"><span id="result_box" class="long_text"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="Las opiniones convergen y eso es muy bueno.">Thank you for this inspiring dialogue. Inspired by the convergence of opinions, I believe i</span><span title="Sería muy bueno de hacer una diferencia en wikipedia.">t would be good to make a concrete difference in Wikipedia. <br></span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="Una sugerencia se proponernos tener una cantidad de artículos (100.000? -en total entre todas las lenguas) en los próximos 18 meses (?) relacionados con la mujer."><br></span></span></div><div style="ZOOM: 1" dir="ltr"><span id="result_box"
class="long_text"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="Una sugerencia se proponernos tener una cantidad de artículos (100.000? -en total entre todas las lenguas) en los próximos 18 meses (?) relacionados con la mujer.">A suggestion I would like to share is to develop a
number of articles (100,000? -in total in various languages) in 1 or 2 years (?) related to women. </span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="Estos artículos podrían recibir un símbolo (por ejemplo una F dentro de un círculo en color rojo, rosa?) similar a como un artículo recibe una estrella.">These articles may receive a symbol (eg an F inside a circle in red, pink?) Similarly (not in the procedure) to articles with a star.
</span><span title="También podrían estar en un listado, y ese listado, si puede ser, esté integrado por varias lenguas.">They could also be on a list, and
that list, if possible, be composed of several languages. <br><br></span><span title="Por ejemplo:">For example: <br></span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="artículos ya existentes sobre Maria Curie, etc">existing articles on Maria Curie,
etc. <br></span><span title="artículos a promover (más biografías de mujeres)">articles with more
biographies of women) <br></span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="artículos sobre los derechos de la mujer">articles on women's rights
<br></span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="artículos sobre el rol femenino en las religiones indígenas (pachamama,etc) o en conceptos (matria, etc)">articles on the role of women in
indigenous religions (Pachamama, etc) or concepts (motherland, matria, etc)
<br><br></span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="Una propuesta transcultural sensitiva al tema femenino, que está tan poco representado a nivel de editores de Wikipedia como también a nivel temático.">A cross-sensitive
women's proposal, which is poorly represented at editorial as well as
thematic level. <br><br></span><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="Estarían invitados tanto mujeres como hombres ha quebrar este gap de contenido.">Wikipedia would be proactive inviting both women and
men to break this gap. </span></span></div><div style="ZOOM: 1" dir="ltr"><span id="result_box" class="long_text"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="Esta propuesta puede femenizar a Wikipedia progresivamente, atraer a más mujeres como editoras ya tener más lectores femeninos.">At the same time this initiative</span></span> can feminize Wikipedia progressively attracting more women as editors and have more female
readers. </div><div style="ZOOM: 1" dir="ltr"><span id="result_box" class="long_text"><span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff" title="Esta propuesta puede femenizar a Wikipedia progresivamente, atraer a más mujeres como editoras ya tener más lectores femeninos."><br></span><span title="un abrazo,"><br></span><span title="Patricia">Patricia</span></span></div><div style="ZOOM: 1" dir="ltr">University of Leuven (projects on solidarity at UNESCO Chair on Building Sustainable Peace)</div></div><div><br>--- On <b>Tue, 2/8/11, Susan Spencer <i><susan.spencer@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Susan Spencer <susan.spencer@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [Gendergap] A pet peeve / cliche<br>To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org<br>Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 11:55 PM<br><br><div id="yiv621790134"><div class="yiv621790134gmail_quote"><div>First, Sandy,
<br><br>I totally agree with you - the few men who <br>use negative locker room talk about women have<br>caused the downfall of many women in management.<br>The majority of men don't make statements like this,<br>
but they do let them be discussed.<br>So good guys, stop being a part of the problem. Tell the<br>insecure guys to shut up, that nobody wants to hear that <br>stuff anymore.<br><br>Second, Miguel,<br><br>Thank you for pointing out that the gender gap <br>
exists all over the world. <br><br>You propose the Wikipedia site itself might be a problem, <br>because women don't want to work with it because<br>it isn't WYSIWYG. <*sigh*><br>The reasons being:<br><br>1. "men are a bit more obsessive in their work than women"<br>
2. "maybe it's the look of the site, not attractive enough" <br>3. "women tend to focus their attention on people, instead of things, as men do"<br><br>#1 & #3 have been stated about women and work for over a century.<br>
<br>#2 --> Has a woman *actually* told you that she won't post to <br>Wikipedia because she finds the interface too difficult? <br>You're proposing that women don't want to post as experts <br>because they don't want
to be an expert in using a complex interface.<br>Because of a deficiency with women, they don't want to become<br>experts with a system that would allow them to post their<br>expert opinion.<br>I sense a catch-22 argument here.<br>
Reworking the Wikipedia interface is not really addressing the problem.<br><br>Another reason why "women don't want to ____ because ______"<br>We should have a Wiki page on these bizarre reasons.<br>If we put them in a long list it might not help anyone, but<br>
it might be humorous. We could just refer to reason #1054<br>or #782 or #11659 with links to the Wiki page. Good for<br>a laugh. Women could post any new funnies, like "women <br>aren't as obsessive about their work as men are".<br>
This might become the most popular set of pages on Wikipedia.<br>Of course, it would probably attract trolls. So let's not.<br>
<br>To have a serious response to the problem, let's have a <br>'Women Post to Wiki' month, and have a banner<br>about it on every Wiki page during the month. It validates that <br>the world community accepts women as experts, and invites <br>
women to post who may have thought about it before, but didn't. <br>I love that Google has different logos every day. Wiki <br>can have a different logo for that month.<br><br>- Susan Spencer Conklin<br><br></div></div>
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