The issues brought forth by "anonymous (street meat)" are/were social and
gender-based -- the film has been well-received and its reception has
preceded anything on Wikipedia. The page was not written in any
self-promotional mode -- but in an informational mode. I think I stepped on
someone's toes because more than a year go I called attention to "Saturday
Night Special" a short which was extremely laudatory of its director, cast
and crew. I suggested an edit. No one paid attention to it and when they
did, after being on the web for four years or more, it was selective. I
believe that the Wikipedia page on that short (which was, incidentally,
passing itself off as a full length feature without anyone even questioning
it at all, as I certainly didn't know) was written and maintained by
someone close to that person. The deletion was 11th hour because I brought
up issues is selectivity and double-standard -- and I believe that they were
there.
The orange gentleman seems to think that he was polite when he's been
accusing me of self-promotion and lying while ignoring all I had to say over
and over and over again in several different exhausting venues. I pointed
out that films by women are precious few and far between -- films by
Hispanic women even more so -- that in and of itself is noteworthy if anyone
should ever look it up on Wikipedia. The rudeness of that man's remarks are
mean-spirited and I think he was particularly so because I am a woman, but
it's an unnecessary attitude in regards to anyone of any gender. The page
for "Saturday Night Special" was removed without nary a comment. My
comments and their remarks were kept on, I believe, to humiliate me. I have
concluded that this is an exhausting unkind process as evidenced by bullying
as a deterrent. It's no wonder more women do not contribute.
I have an assignment to write.
Thank you and kind regards --
Mig --
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Today's Topics:
1. Women's Voices Women Vote | feminist lobby group wants help
(Audrey Cormier)
2. Women, collective intelligence, and Wikipedia (Pete Forsyth)
3. and to contrast...one stop Commons hosiery shopping!
(Sarah Stierch)
4. "anonymous (street meat)" (Migdia Chinea)
5. Re: "anonymous (street meat)" (Nathan)
6. Re: "anonymous (street meat)" (Michael J. Lowrey)
7. Deterrent (Mig)
8. Re: Deterrent (Jeremy Baron)
9. From Jezebel: "Men?s Rights Fight Breaks Out On Wikipedia"
(Sarah Stierch)
10. Re: "anonymous (street meat)" (Dominic)
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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:57:12 -0400
From: Audrey Cormier <cormier.home(a)yahoo.ca>
Subject: [Gendergap] Women's Voices Women Vote | feminist lobby group
wants help
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I can add info from the draft to the article (under new title to reflect
the organization's new name) this evening, if no one else has done it
already. Will copy edit as well if needed.
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:42:18 -0700
From: Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Gendergap] Women, collective intelligence, and Wikipedia
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
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Hi all,
Eugene Kim, the consultant who facilitated Wikimedia's amazing five-year
strategic planning process, has just posted an interesting blog post (with
his new consulting agency, Groupaya).
http://groupaya.net/blog/2011/10/do-women-make-groups-smarter/
An excerpt:
Tom Malone is the director of MIT?s Center for
Collective Intelligence. A
few months ago, he published research with Carnegie
Mellon?s Anita Woolley
suggesting that groups with more women exhibited greater collective
intelligence. It?s not that women have higher IQs than men. (Individual IQ
had little correlation with collective intelligence.) It?s that women tend
to exhibit more social sensitivity than men, and social sensitivity is a
much stronger contributing factor to group intelligence.
Kim goes on to discuss the implications for Wikipedia, a project that is
highly collaborative and mostly male. He concludes with the idea that, in
the interest of pursuing more effective collaboration, Wikipedia would
benefit from more participation by women.
A good read, I recommend it.
-Pete
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Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:20:16 -0400
From: Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [Gendergap] and to contrast...one stop Commons hosiery
shopping!
To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects
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While reviewing new content for my scoop.it (
http://www.scoop.it/t/women-and-wikimedia), where I posted the recent blog
link that Pete shared..I was suggested this: (safe for work)
http://hosieryadvocate.blogspot.com/2011/10/hosiery-in-wikimedia-sexy-hallo…
The blog writer has an entire set of tags devoted to photographs of women
in
hosiery that are found on Wikipedia/Media/Commons.
Here is the blog when the writer praises Commons for it's excellent job at
categorizing hosiery.
http://hosieryadvocate.blogspot.com/2011/05/hosiery-in-wikimedia.html
"Wikimedia Commons <http://commons.wikimedia.org/> does a great job of
finding hosiery photos for you, when you search for hosiery, pantyhose,
tights and stockings, but there are many photos on the site, that do not
turn up with those searches. Those photos show up under different searches,
and will do just fine."
-- On a personal note, my first high end retail job, at 18, was working in
the hosiery department at Nordstroms. I became well aware of the fetish
around hosiery due to a selected clientele we had. But this gave me quite a
chuckle and brought back "Early retail" memories.
I'm impressed that so many men know so much about women's hosiery on
Commons, presuming that the majority of categorizers handling that
department are males....(I could be wrong, but statistically...)
Sarah
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Sarah Stierch Consulting
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