[Gendergap] Supporting Campus Ambassador programs [Fwd: Issue of Copy-Pasting]

Fri Oct 7 15:41:45 UTC 2011

I think the overall medium-term results so far has been one person at
most per course staying on Wikipedia after the course, and more
frequently nobody at all.  I think this not necessarily a  result of
bad experiences or coercion, but rather that curiosity is not
necessarily going to equal participation. Myself, I've looked at many
things on the web (& elsewhere)  (&, for that matter, various WMF
projects & types of work on Wikipedia) & participated long enough to
understand them , but decided not to continue--not from
dissatisfaction, but just because other things interested me more.

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Lennart Guldbrandsson
<l_guldbrandsson at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sarah's conclusions are in sync with what I've heard from the team at the
> Wikimedia Foundation. But, and that's a crucial point, the goal with the
> collaborations with the universites is not to make everyone a Wikipedian. I
> know, that may be strange or counter-intuitive. It certainly was for me.
> Instead, the goal is to increase the quality of those articles that they
> university courses are working on, and if some of those who edited during
> the course stays on as Wikipedians, that's terrific, but it cannot be the
> goal. I am sure that Frank Schulenburg, Rod Dunican, LiAnna Davis or the
> other people in the (now) Global Education team can provide more insight
> into their original thinking. Or Pete Forsythe, for that matter, who I know
> is on this list.
>
> I know that is but one of the aspects of Sarah's email, but it's the one
> aspect I know something about :-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Lennart
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> ________________________________
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 10:30:10 -0400
> From: sarah.stierch at gmail.com
> To: fredbaud at fairpoint.net; gendergap at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Supporting Campus Ambassador programs [Fwd: Issue
> of Copy-Pasting]
>
> I took some time last week and actually went through the "female" editors
> (many of the students openly identify their real names and/or genders)
> participating in class programs.
>
> 1) Most don't edit Wikipedia after the class is over - and this goes beyond
> gender. I determined this by studying their user contributions and also
> using a tool to examine contributions and gender for specific WikiProjects
> (specifically WP:Public art which developed as a program with students
> before the Campus Ambassador program existed)
> 2) A nice amount of them generally get slaps on the hand for their lack of
> understanding on "How Wikipedia Works"
>
> I'm not sure if this means that something in the system is broken (i.e.
> we're not educating students and professors on how Wikipedia works write,
> we're not providing ongoing outreach - which seems to be a problem in a lot
> of areas of WP outreach...), that the students genuinely have no interest
> (and that's fine, they are "forced" to do it, after all), or what..
>
> Some of these problems involve image deletion (due to lack of understanding
> on how fair use/copyright works in Wikipedia), article deletion, blocking of
> accounts, or just plain calling people out on their talk pages. I didn't
> gather all this information in a pile - I've looked at upwards of a thousand
> female editors accounts over the past two weeks - but, it's there, if you
> dig around a bit.
>
> -Sarah
>
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
> Help is needed.
>
> Fred
>
> --------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
> Subject: Issue of Copy-Pasting
> From:    "Hisham" <hisham at wikimedia.org>
> Date:    Fri, October 7, 2011 7:46 am
> To:      "Wikipedia Ambassadors India"
> <wikipedia-ambassadors-india at googlegroups.com>
>         wikipedia-online-ambassadors at googlegroups.com
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hi Team
>
> This problem is continuing and is fast approaching disaster proportions.
> Please see these comments
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:India_Education_Program#Queries_from_the_Wikipedia_community>
> and
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Ambassadors#Concerns_over_impact_on_article_quality>
>
> Please urgently do the following
>
> a) Constantly repeat to every student that copy-pasting is not acceptable
> b) Monitor the work of your students - and make sure they edit in their
> sandboxes before they go live (and only go live after you ok it.)
> c) Please let's have the Campus & Online Ambassadors working closely with
> each other to do point (b) and to track, monitor and correct the work of
> your respective students.
>
> In the next few days and weeks, the problem is going to explode unless we
> control it because many students' deadlines are approaching.
>
> Please treat this matter with the highest urgency.  The very future of
> our program is at stake.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> hisham
>
>
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