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[Risker]

I am saying that you are questioning the decision of an independent body to
select a person for membership in the same way that he questioned the WMF
for selecting a person he did not consider appropriate. In short, he sought
a non-project sanction for on-project activities/concerns. I do not see a
difference between that behaviour, and members of this list seeking a
non-project sanction (i.e., removing someone from a chapter Board of
Directors) for on-project activities/concerns, particularly when the
on-project concern was....well, doing exactly what seems to be proposed
here.

Wikimedia chapters are not beholden to one specific project. There are
hundreds of people banned or blocked on one WMF project who are active,
respected members of other projects;  in fact, even on English Wikipedia,
appropriate and valued work in another WMF project or area is usually
considered a mitigating factor when a user requests review of a sanction.

(For the record, I am a member of the Arbitration Committee that voted to
ban the user in question, and did support a ban.)

Risker/Anne



On 7 October 2011 11:22, Sandra <sandratordonez at gmail.com> wrote:

> I dont understand what ur trying to express. Can u possibly clarify.
>
> Are you saying that this person should be allowed to represent the
> community in an official capacity even though he has been recently banned
> for inappropriate behavior and breaking community guidelines?
>
> I just want to make sure that im understanding your point of view
> correctly.
>
> On Oct 7, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would recommend considerable caution in discussing this issue on this
> mailing list. One of the key "harassment" issues was that the now-banned
> user attempted to contact the WMF about another user whom he believed to
> beemployed by the WMF under some form of grant or contract. It raises an
> interesting question that some here would think it appropriate to try to
> affect that person's position in a Wikimedia chapter because of the English
> Wikipedia ban; it is parallel to the situation for which the user was banned
> in the first place.
>
> At least one other party under conditional sanctions in the same case is an
> active and respected member of this mailing list, and I can respect that it
> would be difficult for that individual to have this matter dissected here.
> Please proceed with caution.
>
>
> Risker/Anne
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7 October 2011 09:55, Sandra ordonez < <sandratordonez at gmail.com>
> sandratordonez at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Currently banned and I think it wasn't that long ago.
>>
>> lets wait till aude responds to see if there is a way this list can help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Michael J. Lowrey <<orangemike at gmail.com>
>> orangemike at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Sandra ordonez <<sandratordonez at gmail.com>
>>> sandratordonez at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Essentially, that someone has gotten a leadership position in the D.C.
>>> > chapter who has been banned from editing Wikipedia for year for things
>>> like
>>> > harassing people, disruptive behavior, and editing problems like
>>> copyright
>>> > violations.
>>>
>>> Banned in the past, and done their time; or currently banned? I've
>>> worked with ex-cons in the past.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Michael J. "Orange Mike" Lowrey
>>>
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