[Gendergap] The Book of Genesis

[Marc Riddell]

on 2/13/11 1:23 AM, Pharos at pharosofalexandria at gmail.com wrote:

> Um, this thread seems rather off-topic of our specific purpose here...
> 
> Thanks,
> Pharos

Pharos, are you saying that these posts have nothing to do with gender gap?

Marc

> 
> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Marc Riddell
> <michaeldavid86 at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I don't, as a rule, top post. But in this case, since it is a response to
>> both of these messages, it seemed appropriate,
>> 
>> There was a time, many, many, many years ago; before there was any defined
>> structured social or political group; there was a female, a male, and their
>> offspring. And the female was, in fact, the center of this grouping. She
>> gave life, kept the "home" and nurtured the offspring on a daily basis.
>> While the male, on the other hand was gone most of the time hunting and
>> gathering. As these individual "family groups" began gathering into tribes,
>>  then groups of tribes into villages etc., etc. to today, these groups soon
>> required some sort of "leadership". That was when the man said to the woman,
>> "You stay at home, honey, and tend to the hearth, and I'll tend to the
>> business outside, as I have always done". That was when the most insidious
>> transfer of importance and power in the history of humankind took place.
>> Pity. Men began making and enforcing the rules, starting and fighting the
>> wars, writing the books deciding, and defining, what deities we must
>> worship, and generally making a worldwide nuisance of himself.
>> 
>> Progress?
>> 
>> Marc Riddell
>> 
>> 
>> on 2/12/11 5:47 AM, Oliver Keyes at scire.facias at gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> I'm going to go with "because it's a translation of a translation of a
>> translation of a translation of a [positively recurse 50 times] of a
>> translation of a book written by humans, who are fallible, specifically male
>> humans, in a period where gender equality was occasionally allowing your
>> wife to talk, oh, and there's absolutely no evidence the subject of said
>> book existed in the first place".
>> 
>> Satan crops up twice in the bible. In the mean time, Jezebel, Delilah, Eve
>> and almost every other female character who isn't meek and mild as milk is
>> depicted as being single-handedly responsible for the fall of humanity, the
>> betrayal of Sampson, David's inability to keep his man-parts in his
>> underwear, and everything else that goes wrong with the world. It's no
>> surprise equality has taken so long to even appear on the horizon when
>> people are treating guff like this as an infallible or immutable document.
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Miguelinito <miguelinito at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Abraham and Sarah were already very old, and Sarah was past the age of
>> childbearing. So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, 3After I am worn
>> out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?2
>> 
>> Then the LORD said to Abraham, 3Why did Sarah laugh and say, ‘Will I really
>> have a child, now that I am old?1 Is anything too hard for the LORD? I will
>> return to you at the appointed time next year, and Sarah will have a son.2
>> 
>> Sarah was afraid, so she lied and said, 3I did not laugh.2
>> 
>> But he said, 3Yes, you did laugh.2
>> 
>> There's a couple of questions here:
>> 
>> 1) Why Almighty God chose to be a man?
>> 
>> 2) Why did Almighty God get angry with the laughter of a simple female
>> mortal? Would he have gotten angry if she, just for *ignorance*, wouldn't
>> have even made herself that question?
>> 
>> For all of you who read the Bible, this could be a nice topic for
>> reflection. :)
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Miguel Ángel
>> 
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