[Gendergap] Hello and specific relevant discussions on En.Wikipedia

[Miguelinito]

I am a man and heterosexual, but I identify with you, although for
other reason: when I first came to Wikipedia, the very first thing I
started to do was improving the style of all the Wikipedia:xx pages I
could find and asking about possible changes to the look of the main page.
Some users thought that I was just disturbing, and finally, after some time,
it all came up to a really drastic situation which almost made me leave
Wikipedia (I won't tell).

Now what I came to post:

Since more than a year ago I've been improving several articles in
the Spanish Wikpedia which I'm sure that women visit a lot:
[[:es:Amor]] (love) and [[:es:Autoestima]] (self-esteem) are two
of them. The article [[:es:Risa]] (laughter) could also be interesting
for women, I think. And nursing is a profession with a majority of
women (I am a nurse), so the articles about nursing science are not
well developed, at least in the Spanish Wikipedia, which I know
better.

Miguel Ángel

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Estimado Carolmooredc,

Con fecha jueves, 10 de febrero de 2011, 17:26:44, escribió:

> Hi. I'm Carolmooredc and since I edit on controversial political topics
> I get in lots of trouble with guys who don't like opinionated females 
> who don't shut up and go away when they are told to. I wish it got me 
> down enough to leave and do something more profitable, but I'm stubborn
> - and semi-retired with lots of time on my hands.

> I'd like to get more educated and retired people involved and think 
> there are tens of thousands who could be attracted - if we could deal 
> with the bar room brawl aspects of wikipedia as this exaggerated but 
> amusing article describes: "Wikipedia: This is a man's world" 
> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/wikipedia-this-is-a-mans-world-2206207.html

> If the Egyptians can get rid of Mubarak, we can get rid of incivility on
> Wikipedia. (And it is catching; I tend to catch it myself when editing
> on one or two articles where there's lots of it and before you know it,
> I'm bringing (mild versions of) it elsewhere where all is peaceful. But
> at least I'm always willing to apologize and strike my (relatively mild)
> incivil comments.

> Anyway, bottom line of why I am posting here is to alert people to at 
> least one place where relevant discussions listed (now just haphazardly
> in talk).  Which is
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Feminism (I 
> don't know if other languages have such projects.)

> Perhaps "WikiProjects Women" on all language Wikipedias are necessary to
> draw in women who for various reasons might not go to a "Wikiproject 
> Feminism"??

> Anyway, an idea of current issues below on en. wikipedia below in case
> anyone wants to jump right in:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia#Gender_bias
> Needs expanding

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Civility#Proposal
> Someone else proposed language to WP:Civility to make slurs vs. 
> homosexuals a no -no and I pointed out it wasn't clear that slurs 
> against women as women are not sufficiently outlawed in the proposal (or
> now).  And of course people are now saying adding one or two words to 
> make both clear is just too much bureaucracy.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_February_9#Bias_categories
> Proposal to delete in order to to try to have a unified policy because
> some categories allow people/organizations to be categorized who may be
> bigoted and others don't. Because of consensus on the talk page (formed
> by who?) Category:Homophobia doesn't allow it and I have a feeling 
> Category:sexism wouldn't  allow some of us to put all the overtly sexist
> (via WP:RS) males and organizations in that category.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Username_policy#Need_more_warnings_on_using_real_names
> Do we need stronger warnings to new users (esp women) that using real 
> names (or sex) can lead to harassment? Or even a check mark box for them
> to check they've read about that possibility on registering ? 
> (Obviously, using my real name, I've had problems!)

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/dispute_resolution
> Main relevant proposals are relating to easier blocks for bad behavior.
> (Elsewhere dealing with editors who gang up on others, whether from POV
> or just enjoy trashing females, has been discussed so that may yet be a
> related proposal on that page.) I was working on a proposal when the NT
> TImes articles came out and got sidetracked. Anyway, we definitely need
> more female input.

> Thanks...

> Carol in dc



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Saludos,
 Miguelinito                            mailto:miguelinito at gmail.com