[Gendergap] Research into causes of the gender gap?

Johannes Rohr johannes.rohr at wikimedia.de
Fri Dec 16 09:22:55 UTC 2011


Hi Bjoern and all,

So in essence you are saying that Wikipedia is a game that boys like
to play more than girls. And there is not much you can do about it,
because editing Wikipedia is more like building Lego space ships than
like playing with dolls?

What I was wondering about is, has this or any other hypothesis
actually been substantiated with some real (quantitative or
qualitative) research? Is there more that anecdotal evidence,
providing some solid ground for us to set the right priorities?

 Thanks,

Johannes

2011/12/15 Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi at gmx.net>:
> * Johannes Rohr wrote:
>>I recently joined this list as I am one of the persons in charge of
>>the community-oriented goals which Wikimedia Deutschland has set for
>>itself for the coming year, one of which is to increase female
>>participation in Wikimedia activities & projects by 50% until the end
>>of 2012, I am well aware that this is a very ambitious target, and I
>>feel that in order to maximise the chances of meeting it, we will have
>>to be as clear as we can about what are the main deterrents,
>>preventing Wikimedia from developing the same way as the rest of the
>>Internet in terms of narrowing the Gender gap. What is it that makes
>>Wikipedia so different, that the seemingly natural disappearance of
>>the gender gap which we have seen in the Blogosphere and in social
>>media, seems to completely pass by the Wikiverse?
>
> You are comparing a global project to build an encyclopedia with media
> for self-expression and communication. There are gender gaps in other
> areas. Lego for instance, where you build things from little bricks, in
> computing where people build information systems, in architecture where
> people build buildings, in civil engineering where people build bridges
> and dams, in construction, in production, where you also build things,
> and also in maintenance where people keep things once built in a con-
> dition so they keep performing the functions they were built for. This
> varies across regions but the trend is fairly consistent.
>
> The Internet does not really matter here, other online projects where
> people build things also suffer from low female participation. I make
> open source software, very few women there, I make web standards, help
> design and define the technology that enable things like Wikipedia, you
> don't get to see many women there either, I follow the Demoscene, a
> competitive computer art sub-culture where men compete on who makes the
> best animations, computer graphics, digital music, and so forth, and
> when you spot a woman there it's probably a girlfriend. Female parti-
> cipation increases as you move towards individual self-expression, say
> creating fan-artwork, or as you mention blogs and "social media", I'd
> suppose product reviews, general "talk" forums and chats, and so on.
>
> If all boys would, as they grow up, play nursing baby dolls, play having
> the neighbours over for dinner, dress up Ken with various clothes and
> accessories; and girls would be building lego space ships to conquer the
> galaxy, would command grand armies in computer games, would play with
> action figures of super heros that fight for truth and justice, who'd be
> writing Wikipedia then? I don't know the answer, but it seems obvious to
> me that in order to understand the Wikipedia "gender gap" you would have
> to understand how to reverse the roles, make it so Wikipedia is edited
> mostly by females, not just how to remove what some suspect a deterrent
> might be to increase participation by three or so percentage points. And
> so the most important answer you'll find in surveys is that women often
> are unsure why they should contribute to Wikipedia, while this seems to
> come naturally to men.
>
>>I have seen a number of quantitative studies, which unambiguously
>>confirm the existence of the gender gap as such, but I have seen very
>>little on what causes it to be so persistent in the Wikiverse. There
>>is a number of commonly proposed explanations such as the discussion
>>culture and the poor usability.
>
> If those were the main issues, you would have to address them in a form
> where the improvements only attract women without attracting more men to
> actually close the "gender gap", or at least disproportionally so. That
> may be rather difficult to achieve beyond the margins of error in sur-
> veys.
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