<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Daniel Mayer <maveric149@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
<P><BR>I've already stated, several times in the past, that the roles of trustee and<BR>the roles of corporate officers should be divorced from one another. This is<BR>needed in order to provide proper checks and balances (the board oversees the<BR>officiers and the foundation membership oversees the board). <BR></P>
<P>Ant : I agree<BR><BR>> I view this as fairly loose. Let's have a page on<BR>> meta. People interested list themselves there. The<BR>> community then approve or does not approve to give<BR>> this "official" title. Finally, the board approve or<BR>> not.<BR><BR>I strongly feel that it should be the other way around; the board appoints<BR>officers and the foundation membership either approves or disapproves the<BR>appointees. This provides a check against merely popular people being appointed<BR>to positions they are not qualified to perform. The board members themselves<BR>are the ones that are directly elected. Thus they are the ones legally<BR>responsible for their appointees. <BR><BR>Ant : </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I admit that the legal responsibility and qualification is a major issue. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">However, I must say I would be troubled that the management would be done in such a top down approach, as I feel it could raise issues of fairness and transparency. In particular if those “coordinators” are a mandatory path for subsequent activities.<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Situation 1<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></P>
<UL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm" type=disc>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">a candidate makes himself known to the board<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board checks the candidate credentials (or whatever is thought necessary to guarantee the candidate suitability)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board then appoint the candidate (or rejects it)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the nomination is announced to the community</SPAN></TT></LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Potential issues<BR>* Fairness issue : another candidate might have been suitable<BR>* Transparency issue : the community does not know on which credentials the candidate was chosen<BR>* Possible other issue : the community might generally not approve the candidate</SPAN></TT><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">.<BR>In such case, do we consider the board has last word or do we consider the community could reject an appointment ? </SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Situation 2 : What I understand you propose is<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></P>
<UL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm" type=disc>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">a candidate makes himself known to the board<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board check the candidate credentials (or whatever is thought necessary to guarantee the candidate suitability)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board then appoint the candidate (or rejects it)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the nomination is announced<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the membership votes to approve or disapprove the appointed.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Potential issues<BR>* Fairness issue : another candidate might have been suitable<BR>* Transparency issue : the community does not know on which credentials the candidate was chosen</SPAN></TT><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><BR>* Lack of efficiency : in case the community rejects the candidate<BR></P></SPAN></TT>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Situation 3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></P>
<UL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm" type=disc>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">a candidate makes himself known to the board<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board then make a call for more candidacy for the position<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board check the candidates credentials<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board then appoint one (or several) of<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>the candidates, reject others<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the nominations are announced<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the membership votes to approve or disapprove the appointed.</SPAN></TT></LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Potential issues<BR>* Lack of efficiency : in case the community rejects the candidate<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Situation 4<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></P>
<UL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm" type=disc>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">a candidate makes himself known to the board<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board then make a call for more candidacy for the position<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board check the candidates credentials<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board propose some of<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>the candidates, reject others<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the approved candidates are announced<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the membership votes to approve or disapprove and nominate people</SPAN></TT></LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Potential issues<BR>* The board is more an organ of screening than decision, it mostly ensures that no bad decision may be offered to the community. Some may regret this.</SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Situation 5<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></P>
<UL style="MARGIN-TOP: 0cm" type=disc>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">a candidate makes himself known to the community<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the membership then make a call for more candidacy for the position<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the membership approve or disapprove candidates<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board check the approved candidates credentials<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the board appoints one (or several) of the candidates<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></LI>
<LI class=MsoNormal style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 36.0pt"><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">the approved candidates are announced</SPAN></TT></LI></UL>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Potential issues<BR>* The membership may exclude some people, and base itself more on popularity than on ability as Mav pointed out. </SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Are they other options ? Are they other potential issues ?</SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Perhaps the question is<BR>what is the role of the board ? </SPAN></TT><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">*To take decision for the community (and consider that the decision is good since people were elected for this, hence relieving some pressure of some decision making from the community)</SPAN></TT><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">*Or to guarantee that good decisions are taken by the community (and have a sort of veto when the decision appears to be bad).</SPAN></TT><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN></TT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><TT><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Typically, the first case is the model of the current arbitration committee, and the second case is a lot of what Jimbo is doing in many cases. </SPAN></TT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p>
<hr size=1><font face=arial size=-1>Do you Yahoo!?<br><a href="http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/hotjobs/hotjobs_mail_signature_footer_textlink/evt=23983/*http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover">Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs </a>