[Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

[HW]

Village Pump on zh Wikipedia, 
on http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/WP:VPM#.E8.81.AF.E7.BD.B2.E8.87.B3.E7.99.BE.E5.BA.A6.E4.BF.A1.E4.BB.B6.E3.80.81.E6.96.B0.E9.97.BB.E7.A8.BF and
 it is still planning and it have not yet been send out to media. Also it is not 
a foundation press release but only a Chinese Wikipedia community press release. 
A wikipedian said that all action to Baidu must be taken in Hong Kong in order 
to make the stock of Baidu "change". Local chapter of Wikimedia Foundation has 
been contacted.

HW

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寄件人﹕ Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton at gmail.com>
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傳送日期﹕ 2011/4/24 (日) 8:38:16 PM
主題： Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to Baidu and press release "Baidu Baike copies 
content from Wikipedia without attribution" draft

I'm sorry, where was the decision made to write a press release? I'm
really not sure that's the best approach. What attempts at direct
communication have been attempted so far?

On 24 April 2011 09:45, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers at gmail.com> wrote:
> 16,000,000 out of 3,000,000 articles sounds high to me, it would mean
> over 500% of it was copyvio. Could that be individual edits?
>
> Otherwise I suggest:
>
> day mon, 2011
> Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org), a non-profit project run by the
> Wikimedia Foundation, uses an open licence but with some terms.
> The Chinese Wikipedia community welcomes the development of Baidu's
> encyclopedia project Baidu Baike, as Baidu's efforts to build a
> Chinese language encyclopaedia are complementary to Wikimedia's aims
> to make the sum of human knowledge freely available to everyone in the
> world. However, Baidu Baike has repeatedly violated the copyright of
> Wikipedia. Wikipedians have complained many times but without result.
>
> Baidu Baike started in April 2006, and now has more than 3 million
> articles. However, Wikipedian's investigations indicate that more than
> 16,000,000<seems high should this be 160,000?> of the edits that
> created these articles were copies from the Chinese Wikipedia or
> translations from the English or Japanese versions of Wikipedia. These
> copies and translations were done without complying with the licence
> adopted by Wikipedia. This is a copyright violation against Wikipedia
> editors, who write for free, asking only that their work remains free
> and is attributed to them. So the contents of Wikipedia are available
> to all under  the CC-by-sa-3.0 and GDFL licences, including to Baidu.
> But Baidu Baike doesn't comply with these licences, and claims
> ownership of all content contributed to it with "? 2011 Baidu" stated
> at the bottom of every page. As for attribution, according to some
> users, even if all content is copied from
> Wikipedia, Baidu' does not allow Wikipedia even to be listed as a
> reference. When Wikipedians find people have copied and pasted content
> from Baidu Baike into Wikipedia they quickly delete this as it
> breaches Baidu's copyright. But Baidu Baike editors take insufficient
> action when they see copyright violation. The terms of use of Baidu
> Baike say the users who post  material are responsible for the
> copyright issues, but as the operator of Baidu Baike, Baidu should
> also take responsibility to resolve this.
>
> Therefore, the Chinese Wikipedia community has sent a letter again to
> Baidu requesting them to take action, and has decided to escalate
> matters by doing so publicly.
>
> There is a great opportunity here for Baidu and its contributors.
> Moving Baidu Baike to the CC-by-sa-3.0 licence would allow Wikipedia
> and Baidu Baike to exchange content and attribute it to the original
> authors. Users of Baidu Baike would have more confidence that the
> material was legitimate, and writers who contribute to Baidu Baike
> would know that their content could be translated into other language
> versions of Wikipedia with attribution, just as Chinese Wikipedians
> know that some of their writings are translated into other languages
> but still attributed to them.
>
> About Wikipedia
> Wikipedia is an Encyclopaedia written by volunteers, and is the
> largest project of the Wikimedia Foundation. "Imagine a world in which
> every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge.
>  That's our commitment." This is how Jimmy Wales, the founder of
> Wikipedia, explains the mission of Wikimedia.
>
> About CC-by-sa-3.0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CC-BY-SA-3.0
>
> Press contact
> Wikimedia Hong Kong: infowikimedia.hk Tango Chan: tango.chanwikimedia.hk +852
> 9063-2515
> Wikimedia Taiwan: presswikimedia.tw Ted Chien: htchienwikimedia.tw
> Chinese Wikipedia OTRS system: info-zhwikimedia.org
>
> WSC
>>
>> ------------------------------
>
>>
>> English version
>> ________________________________
>>
>> Baidu Baike copies content from Wikipedia without attribution
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>> day mon, 2011
>> Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org), a non-profit project run by Wikimedia
>> Foundation, uses an open licence but with some terms.
>> The Chinese Wikipedia community is glad to see the development of Baidu's
>> encyclopedia project called Baidu Baike, and Baidu's efforts to push forward 
>>the
>> growing of knowledge around Chinese people, for Wikipedia also aims at making
>> the sum of human's knowledge free to everyone in the world. However, Baidu 
>>Baike
>> keeps violating the copyright of Wikipedia. Wikipedians have complained many
>> times but without result.
>> Baidu Baike started in April 2006, and has included 3 million more articles 
>>now.
>> However, Wikipedian's investigation shows that among these articles more than
>> 16,000,000 were copied from Chinese, English or Japenese Wikipedia, and were
>> used in a way against the licence adopted by Wikipedia. This is a copyright
>> violation to Wikipedia editors. Wikipedia releases its contents under
>> CC-by-sa-3.0 and GDFL licences, while Baidu Baike doesn't claim to be using
>> these licences, even with "? 2011 Baidu" stated at the bottom of the page. As
>> for attribution, according to some users, even if all content is copied from
>> Wikipedia, it is not allowed by Baidu's censorship to list Wikipedia as a
>> reference. When Wikipedians encounter contents from Baidu Baike, they will
>> delete them without delay, while Baidu Baike editors take no action when they
>> see copyright violation. Although the terms of use of Baidu Baike sais the 
>>users
>> who post it should be responsible for the copyright issues, but as the runner 
>>of
>> Baidu Baike, Baidu is also inescapably liable for the such issues.
>> Therefore, the Chinese Wikipedia community has sent a letter again to Baidu 
>and
>> requires them to take action. We hope that the modern media can give a report 
>>on
>> this issue in order to let more people know about it.
>> About Wikipedia
>> Wikipedia is the largest project run by Wikimedia Foundation. "Imagine a 
world
>> in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all 
>knowledge.
>> That's our commitment." This is how Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia,
>> interprets the mission of Wikipedia.
>> Press contact
>> Wikimedia Hong Kong: infowikimedia.hk Tango Chan: tango.chanwikimedia.hk +852
>> 9063-2515
>> Wikimedia Taiwan: presswikimedia.tw Ted Chien: htchienwikimedia.tw
>> Chinese Wikipedia OTRS system: info-zhwikimedia.org
>>
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