[Foundation-l] Plea for candidates: WMF Movement Communications Manager

Béria Lima berialima at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 19:27:15 UTC 2011


And no English speaker is able to learn a second language?
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*Béria Lima*
<http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 925 171 484

*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre
acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a
fazer.***


2011/4/15 Sarah <slimvirgin em gmail.com>

> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 13:07, Béria Lima <berialima em gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is not a Bias Sarah. Anyone can apply, but they have to know english (if
> not
> > as 1º language as 2º one) and another language (if english is the 1º
> one).
> > If this person is american, chinese, brazilian or african (i imagine)
> that
> > really don't care
> > _____
> > *Béria Lima*
> > <http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 925 171 484
>
> It doesn't say that, Béria. It seems to say that, ideally, the
> successful applicant will not have English as a first language, i.e.
> will not be from most of Canada, the United States, Australia, New
> Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Barbados, Trinidad and
> Tobago, and several more.
>
> That rules out a huge number of Wikimedians (most, in fact) just
> because of their birthplace and culture.
>
> The ad says: "Demonstrated ability to work (speak, read, write at a
> professional level) effectively in a language other than English
> (ideally as a native speaker)"
>
> Sarah
>
>
> > 2011/4/15 Sarah <slimvirgin em gmail.com>
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:42, Fred Bauder <fredbaud em fairpoint.net>
> wrote:
> >> >> I understood that they wanted someone who was ideally *not* a native
> >> >> English speaker. That was something that concerned me when I read it,
> >> >> because it looked as if the intention was to disadvantage applicants
> >> >> who had English as a first language. Or did I misunderstand it?
> >> >>
> >> >> "Demonstrated ability to work (speak, read, write at a professional
> >> >> level) effectively in a language other than English (ideally as a
> >> >> native speaker)"
> >> >
> >> > English speakers and Europeans generally, such as you and I, dominate
> >> > most Wikimedia conversations. I doubt anyone could function in this
> >> > position if they didn't understand English, but our hope is to get the
> >> > rest of the world involved.
> >> >
> >> > However it is hard to imagine an ideal second language that is not
> >> > European; only Arabic is spoken by a large diverse population with
> >> > internet access.
> >> >
> >> Is that kind of bias against national origin allowed when hiring?
> >>
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