[Foundation-l] the annual advertisement discussion

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Another hard word.. cupidity: "avarice: extreme greed for material wealth".

I appreciate the sentiment. However, the material gain from advertisements
is not going to make us personally rich. It will enable us to do more and
different things. Things that are currently outside of our reach. When we
use such monies frugally, the benefits will be enormous and, this is quite
the opposite of your sentiment.
Thanks,
         GerardM

On 8 November 2010 21:51, Noein <pronoein at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On 08/11/2010 17:37, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
> >  I care more about realising our ambitions, I
> > care about getting our message out.
>
>
> Personally, I care also about the means. I wouldn't like cupidity as the
> core of wikipedia. Money, thus, should not become the fuel we use.
>
>
>
> In my opinion we can improve our
> > messaging a lot. When people say that the WMF is transparent, they are
> > right. We fail however in having our message heard. When we hire new
> people,
> > people like Alolita for instance, we hire someone who we should be proud
> > of.  Proud that she wants to work with us.
> >
> > Many great activities are happening in our chapters. Learning about these
> > activities is inspiring. When we know what fun can be had, we can learn
> from
> > each other and reduce the amount of overhead and concentrate on where we
> > make a difference.
> >
> > Another aspect that is missing in annual advertisement discussion is what
> we
> > should do with the money.. Assuming that we make a huge amount of money,
> I
> > have blogged about that as well.
> > Thanks,
> >       GerardM
> >
> >
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/11/effect-of-100m-in-advertisement-money.html
> >
> > On 6 November 2010 22:20, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> Hoi,
> >>> As the "A" word has been mentioned again as is tradition,  I want us to
> >>> talk
> >>> instead about how we can advertise / market our strategy, I want us to
> >>> discuss how this helps us to reach out. How we can realise the goals
> that
> >>> we
> >>> so beautifully formulated in our strategy..
> >>>
> >>> To start it off, I have blogged some of my sentiments.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>      GerardM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/11/annual-wikipedia-argument-about.html
> >>
> >> Nice sentiments, but you don't address the question of why someone else
> >> needs the potential advertising revenue more than we do. Google does
> many
> >> good things, including providing substantial support to Wikipedia, but
> >> what good does money in the pockets of their shareholders do us?
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
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