[Foundation-l] Fwd: Pt-Portuguese Wikipedia

[Virgilio A. P. Machado]

Began!

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_language_issues

If you have any further suggestions or comments, they are very welcome.

Please use either the 
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issues#English>English 
or 
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issues#Portugu.C3.AAs>Portuguese 
sections of the 
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Portuguese_language_issues>talk 
page for debate.

Thank you all so very much.

Sincerely,

Virgilio A. P. Machado


At 23:41 24-03-2010, you wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Virgilio A. P. 
>Machado <vam at fct.unl.pt> wrote: > Mark, > > A 
>page in the Portuguese Wikipedia could shut 
>out > the community at large. A bilingual page 
>would be > very hard to pull off. As far as I 
>can tell, > non-Portuguese discussions are not 
>welcomed there. > > I looked at Meta and saw no 
>place for a page like > that. Could you be more 
>specific? > > That's why I brought the question 
>to the list: I > really don't know where a 
>discussion like that > could take place within 
>the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation. > > 
>Going back to my initial posting: > > «Perhaps 
>the question is not the creation of a > new 
>version of Wikipedia, but to make the > 
>Portuguese Wikipedia appealing to all readers 
>and > writers (editors) of the Portuguese 
>language. > There might be solutions and 
>proposals to address > this problem which have 
>been kept from seeing the > light of day, for 
>untold reasons. > > It might be worthwhile to 
>open a page where the > discussion could be 
>centralized.» > > Like Chad pointed out, even 
>within this > discussion, there have been posts 
>suggesting > several helpful rules and technical 
>approaches. > Solutions from different projects 
>could be > brought together and would be 
>available for all > those where they might be 
>useful. This would make > the discussion less 
>specific to the Portuguese > Wikipedia but more 
>valuable to the Wikimedia > community. Even with 
>that broader scope I don't > know where to 
>start. If there's not already a > place like 
>that, where would it appropriate to create 
>one? > > Sincerely, > > Virgilio A. P. 
>Machado > > > At 17:44 24-03-2010, you 
>wrote: >>I think there are two options: Meta and 
>pt.wp itself. My personal opinion is >>that it 
>does not need to be bilingual, but that is of 
>course up to you. >> >>On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 
>5:17 PM, Virgilio A. P. Machado 
><vam at fct.unl.pt>wrote: >> >> > Thanks Chad. I 
>know that, but what kind of page (what title)? 
>Where? >> > Would it be alright to be 
>bilingual? >> > >> > Sincerely, >> > >> > 
>Virgilio A. P. Machado >> > >> > >> > At 23:25 
>23-03-2010, you wrote: >> > >It requires you to 
>take initiative to start the page and try to 
>draw >> > >others into a discussion. You don't 
>need anyone's permission to do >> > >that. Also, 
>I think it was (briefly) glossed over before, 
>but there >> > >/is/ the Language Converter code 
>in MediaWiki that could be >> > >leveraged to 
>help some here. I don't think it's necessarily a 
>magic >> > >bullet, but it's worth exploring. I 
>know nothing in Portuguese, so I >> > >don't 
>really grasp how widespread the discrepancies 
>are, but I >> > >assume there's rules to 
>describe them. Social solutions are 
>also >> > >helpful, like the aforementioned 
>American/British and Cyrillic/Latin >> > >issues 
>mentioned earlier in the thread. A combination 
>of social and >> > >technical solutions might 
>just help bring some closure to 
>this >> > >issue. 
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>[[Portuguese language issues]] or something. I'm 
>not a regular metapedian, so there might be a 
>better place--I just can't think of a *specific* 
>place offhand. -Chad 
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