[Foundation-l] Discussion Questions for Potentially-Objectionable Content

[Ryan Kaldari]

I should make the disclaimer that all of my opinions expressed on this 
list are as a community member rather than a WMF employee. I have no 
official involvement in the current study or any decision making power 
thereof. I just code donation banners :)

Ryan Kaldari

On 7/26/10 2:14 PM, Ryan Kaldari wrote:
> I don't think using an illustration of Bukake rather than a photo is a
> "failure of neutrality", but perhaps we'll have to agree to disagree on
> that. Regardless, as a global project, we need to seriously consider
> what steps we can take to accommodate cultures very different from our
> own, while still retaining the openness and comprehensiveness that make
> our project so successful as an educational resource and collaborative
> project. If that means we let some people filter what they see on
> Wikipedia, so be it. And if it means banning Goatse from the Main Page,
> I'm not going to complain. Obviously we must defend Wikipedia against
> real censorship threats (deleting religious imagery, whitewashing
> political scandals, DMCA abuses, etc.), but I don't see anything
> threatening about Mr. Harris evaluating the issues, or people discussing
> ideas for filtering technology. I think we're pretty far away from the
> edge of the "slippery slope", but if that changes, I'll be right there
> with you defending the integrity of the project.
>
> Ryan Kaldari
>
> On 7/26/10 12:39 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>    
>> On 26 July 2010 20:08, Ryan Kaldari<rkaldari at wikimedia.org>   wrote:
>> failure
>>
>>      
>>> offer filtering. Frankly, we're already filtering content, even on
>>> en.wiki, but only according to a "default" Western/American POV. We use
>>> line drawings instead of photos in articles on sex positions.
>>>
>>>        
>> And this was a defective compromise with pushers of the censored POV
>> at the time, so using it as a reason for more is the begging the
>> question fallacy.
>>
>> Wikimedia's bias is to NPOV and the sum of the world's knowledge.
>> Deliberately restricting that by default is a violation, on the face
>> of it. Apart from using past failures as justification for future
>> failures, do you have a proposal to address the problem of prior
>> default filtering as a failure of neutrality in a manner that shows
>> understanding of why this is a problem?
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
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