[Foundation-l] Partecipation in Wikimania 2011

Moushira Elamrawy moushirah at gmail.com
Wed Aug 11 21:21:34 UTC 2010


On 8/12/10, Mathias Schindler <mathias.schindler at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Abbas Mahmoud <abbasjnr at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Yaroslav: X has no problem with Israel, there's even an embassy in country
>> X, from which he applied the visa, but since he is on a work permit in the
>> Middle east, the embassy sticks the visa on another paper.  Since the
>> country where he works from isnt in good terms with Israel, he travels to
>> Israel from his homecountry X. Wouldn't the immigration officer in country
>> X bar him passage due to the fact that a visa is only recognised if
>> sticked on a passport, and not a piece of paper?
>
> Wouldn't it be more productive to stop talking about X and see if
> there are actual Wikimedians out there who wish to take part in the
> 2011 Wikimania but can't because of their local oppressive government
> and their laws and regulations?
>
> This is very constructive Mathias, however I prefer if we eliminate any judgmental tone towards governments or societies or persons. The issue is quite complicated, complex and extremely relative. Accusing some governments of being oppressive opens the door to counter accusation against Israel and we will end up in an unpleasant loop.

Even within Arab nations who have direct flights to Israel, the
decision to attend has its own considerations, which makes this issue
a complete relative and personal decision.
Thanks for understanding.

M
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