[Foundation-l] On Arabic and sub-language proposals.

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Sun Oct 12 07:45:47 UTC 2008


Hoi,
You are wrong. All messages are not published. It does not matter what the
subject is.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Muhammad Alsebaey <shipmaster at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello,
>
> You said before:
>
> other things are considered as well prior
> to giving the eligible status.
>
> As indicated earlier, all members of the language
> committee were explicitly asked to consider the issue that you raise.
>
> And
>
> The reason why the *internal *deliberations of the language committee are
> > not open is because one of the members is not free to have the
> deliberations
> > published.
>
>
> Those imply an argument that goes beyond a simple question. And that is
> what
> I was referring to (and I guess that's what others are referring to as
> well).
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Again, when the proposal for Egyptian Arabic was posted, I asked the
> > members
> > of the language committee if we should allow for these languages to have
> a
> > Wikipedia. The reply was that we should. Nobody opposed this.
> Consequently
> > after a week, the status of eligible was given.
> >
> > This is all the argument as it happened. Again, this has been said
> > before...
> >
> > Thanks,
> >       GerardM
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Muhammad Alsebaey <shipmaster at gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Of course the process is political.  There's nothing wrong with that.
> > > > Every time two or more people differ on some issue, deciding that
> issue
> > > > requires political interaction, whether it's choosing between the
> > > > opinions offered or synthesizing a new compromise position.  Politics
> > is
> > > > not just partisan activity connected with established ideologies,
> > though
> > > > politicians umbilically associated with such ideologies are the ones
> > who
> > > > give politics a bad name.
> > > >
> > > > Using "too political" as an excuse for not participating in the
> debates
> > > > of the day is itself a political act.
> > > >
> > > > Ec
> > >
> > >
> > >  Hmm I think I meant it in the latter regard: Politics as a partisan
> > > activity connected with established ideologies, since the choice
> bolsters
> > > one of the sides in an ongoing -'partisan' if you may, the term is used
> > > loosely since there is no efficient official parties on the Egyptian
> > scene
> > > except the ruling one- debate in Egypt.
> > >
> > > However, I have to say that Gerard already made it clear that politics
> is
> > > not part of the equation in LangCom decision, so they dont take it as a
> > > factor, of course, we will not know what actually was a factor since
> the
> > > arguments are not published.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Muhammad Alsebaey
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> Muhammad Alsebaey
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