[Foundation-l] A question for the Wikimania jury
Casey Brown
cbrown1023.ml at gmail.com
Mon Mar 31 00:01:28 UTC 2008
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Jason Safoutin
<jason.safoutin at wikinewsie.org> wrote:
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> > Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:56:22 +0100 (BST)
> > From: Patricia Rodrigues <snooze210904 at yahoo.se>
> > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A question for the Wikimania jury
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> > I'm sorry to start the e-mail like this, but... this is getting on my nerves.
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> > pt.wikipedia and es.wikipedia are two of the biggest Wikimedia projects. en.wikipedia is edited by people from all over the world, predictably also by people from South America. Guess what: South America is Portuguese- and Spanish-speaking (respectively Brazil and *the rest of the whole continent*). According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_American there's more than 370 million people living in the continent.
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> > Can we stop being Euro- and North American-centric in what concerns Wikimanias and actually realize that there is a big probability that Wikimania will *eventually* visit all continents and we all get to go there?
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> > Is this going to be another thread about "how bad it is that people from Europe and North America can't easily access [insert place here that displeases europeans and north americans]"?
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> > Congratulations to the winning bid, I hope to be able to go and see lots of my fellow editor colleagues. Even if that means stopping moaning about the fact I live in Sweden.
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> > Patr?cia
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> The point is that its simple. The jury needs to stop picking the places
> that will generate headlines. Its not about Europe and North America but
> of the 370 million people living in S. America, I doubt every one of
> them contribute to a WMF project.
No one said they did... and not all of the people in Europe and North
American contirbute to a WMF project either.
> These places, Egypt, Argentina were IMHO picked to glisten and
> shine...aka bells and whistles. We pick this place because it makes the
> biggest statement. WMF is not about making statements. Its goal is not
> to be political. It is to celebrate the work that Wikimedians do. And to
> hold this in places thats dangerous and has severe rights violations
> (Egypt) Or in a city, where I would love to visit but cannot because I
> don't have the luxury of being rich or better off.
I am not going to respond to these comments because the issue has
already been beaten to death, I doubt anything would change your mind.
> I mean being realistic, does the jury even take into consideration the
> amount of money it will cost to travel to these places for the people
> who will actually make an effort to attend?
Seriously, read the bidding pages before you comment on the reasonings
behind why a certain location was chosen.
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009/Official_requirements_for_bidding_cities>
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2009/Judging_criteria>
> I am not trying to be biased
> but fair and logical. Stop using Wikimania as a political statement or
> to use it to make headlines. This is supposed to be a celebration, not
> an publicity contest.
No one is using it as such... and how could this be used to make
headlines? Were there even any newspaper articles about it? I don't
recall seeing any...
> Jason Safoutin (DragonFire1024)
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/me wonders why this discussion is taking place on Foundation-l
instead of a more appropriate place like Wikimania-l
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Casey Brown
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