[Foundation-l] New draft of privacy policy (urgent)

[effe iets anders]

Hi,

I asked him on private already, apperently it is internet slang for
"Too long; didn't read"

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/TLDR

Best regards,

Lodewijk

2008/6/24 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen op gmail.com>:
> Hoi,
> Please eat your own dog food ... TL;DR is what ?
> Thanks,
>    GerardM
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Ryan <wiki.ral315 op gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Florence Devouard <Anthere9 op yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > Mike has written a new version of the privacy policy, taking into
>> > account comments made on meta and this list, until the 19th of June.
>> >
>> > You may find this new version here:
>> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Draft_Privacy_Policy_June_19_2008
>> >
>>
>> First of all, thank you Florence and Mike for your work on this.
>>
>> I noticed that it doesn't mention anywhere the possibility that the policy
>> may be altered in the future.  Most sites, including Yahoo and Google, do
>> so.  Is this omission accidental or deliberate?  Is such a mention either
>> necessary or encouraged legally?
>>
>> In general, I agree with others that the policy might be worth splitting
>> up.  But if it isn't, I think it should be pruned.  For example, I'm
>> looking
>> at Section VIII, Point C.  Why in the world is it necessary in a privacy
>> policy to specifically mention "badly-behaved web spiders" as a possible
>> reason for examining log data?
>>
>> The mention of IRC is strange.  IRC is not a Wikimedia venue, so perhaps it
>> should be removed completely.  But if it is to be left, why was the mention
>> about the possible exposure of IPs deleted?  Surely that's an important
>> privacy concern regarding IRC (where the IRC guidelines have nothing to do
>> with privacy)
>>
>> Section IV also reads more like a manual than a policy.  Perhaps that was
>> the intent, but I think more than anything, we should be informing our
>> users, not teaching them.
>>
>> Perhaps my main point is this:
>>
>> -- Yahoo privacy policy:  1,427 words
>> -- Google privacy policy:  1,858 words
>> -- Myspace privacy policy:  2,322 words
>> -- WMF current privacy policy:  1,767 words
>> -- WMF privacy policy draft:  5,081 words
>>
>> A privacy policy should not be a TL;DR for the majority of our
>> contributors,
>> even if a clear majority will never read it.  I imagine the ones that would
>> read it would appreciate (relative) brevity.
>>
>> --
>> [[User:Ral315]]
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