[Foundation-l] Wikimedia mouvement

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
One of the wiki things is that you do NOT have to have your house completely
in order, it is ok that you are working on it.. We are clearly trying to do
our best and I expect that we will never find it good enough. When this
means that we should not reach out, when it means that we cannot be part of
the wiki movement, I would consider it a tragedy, a lost opportunity .. in
some way a failure.

When the idea is to improve our WMF communications ... sure ... who is
included ? what is the aim ?
Thanks,
      GerardM

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > In the Wiki movement the Wikimedia Foundation, its projects, its chapters
> > are vitally important. When you want to call this a movement however, it
> is
> > equally important to reach out and recognise the part other organisations
> > and projects play.
> >
> > When you call it the "Wikimedia movement" and invoke trademark rules to
> > exclude, as a movement it will be limited. Its potential relevance
> limited.
> > It is for this reason that I suggest to be clearly inclusive or
> exclusive.
> > When we choose to be exclusive, there is still room for a wiki movement,
> it
> > saddens me that the "Wikimedia movement" will be as a consequence less
> > relevant in this wiki movement.
>
> I think that the situation is complex. We have a need to make wider
> movement, while we didn't solve problems in our house. So, maybe the
> time is to make something which wouldn't pretend to call itself as a
> "movement", but to make communication between different organized
> groups inside of Wikimedia better, as well as their presentation to
> outsiders. When we put it at the legs, we would be able to think about
> free knowledge movement.
>
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