[Foundation-l] Fwd: Tokipona

Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen at gmail.com
Tue Jan 22 01:10:29 UTC 2008


Jesse,
I disagree utterly with you on this. As you are not considering the
arguments provided in the past I leave it at that.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On Jan 22, 2008 2:03 AM, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild) <pathoschild at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Gerard,
>
> That line is not intended as an exception, particularly since I've
> proven with diff links that it predates the requirement for native
> speakers. Other subcommittee members also seem to be generally against
> simply exempting constructed languages without an equivalent
> requirement to replace it.
>
> The problem is not so much constructed languages in themselves, as it
> is the severely unbalanced restrictions between natural and
> constructed languages if we use this as an exception.
>
> Many historical languages are still used as second-hand languages by
> enthusiasts who invent new words for modern concepts. For example, the
> Vatican publishes the "Lexicon Recentis Latinitatis", a complete
> lexicon of new Latin words created to cover modern concepts. The terms
> invented by the Vatican are presumably considered both valid and
> covered by the ISO 639 code for Latin.
>
> There is no real difference between a historical language used by
> enthusiasts and a constructed language used by enthusiasts. You argue
> that speakers of a historical language must invent words to cover
> modern languages, thus making it a new language not covered by the ISO
> 639 code. However, the same is true for constructed language; for
> example, a Wikipedia in Lingua Franca Nova would contain a huge number
> of spontaneously invented words, given its relatively small
> vocabulary. The Wikipedia might even become the official reference for
> Lingua Franca Nova terminology.
>
> It is not fair, as has been argued on Meta, that a language with
> thousands of years of history and thousands of modern second-hand
> speakers (like Latin) should be disadvantaged compared to a
> 10-year-old language with 30 second-hand speakers (like Lingua Franca
> Nova), simply because the second one happened to be invented in
> someone's office or basement.
>
> --
> Yours cordially,
> Jesse Martin (Pathoschild)
> (No messages by those on the language subcommittee are official.)
>
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