[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Foundation's partnership with Kaltuna and loss of freedom

[Brian]

Ignoring all of the ad hominems above, I think the collaboration would be
fruitful as long as the Kaltura logo and and the "Powered by Kaltura"
notices are removed and there is a link allowing people to bypass that
player completely and simply download the file in a free format. If those
were not removed, I would be completely against the collaboration. A
wikilink to the article on Kaltura would be an acceptable replacement in my
mind. Gnash would be an ideal implementation, but I doubt that it is up to
the task. Flash is a global standard with deep penetration and allows the
most people to get the most information.


On Jan 17, 2008 4:20 PM, Robert Horning <robert_horning at netzero.net> wrote:

> Andrew Whitworth wrote:
> > It's not our job to do background checks on our volunteers. What people
> do elsewhere is their business. Our community consists of
> > mostly-anonymous amateurs, people from whom no reputation or
> > qualifications are expected nor required. His zeal against one group
> > or one community does not translate directly into actions at our
> > community. So long as he doesn't troll us, we shouldnt label him a
> > troll.
> >
> > --Andrew Whitworth
> >
> >
>
> Along this line of thought, I have seen somebody banned on en.wikipedia
> that seemed to have behaved themselves rather well on en.wikibooks....
> only to have a zealous steward (I won't name names here, but it has
> happened) go into en.wikibooks and do a permanent ban on their account
> due to an arbcom decision on en.wikipedia.  I think this is
> inappropriate behavior on the part of that particular steward, and I
> hope this doesn't become a widespread practice.  Certainly trollish
> behavior on one project should be a "heads up" to scan for similar
> trollish behavior on other projects, but it shouldn't be the automatic
> reason to kick them off.
>
> Trollish behavior toward trolls begats trollish behavior.  Also, the
> environment of one project isn't necessarily the same on another
> project, so you can't really make a good comparison.
>
> I certainly have seen some project administrators work very well with
> some borderline trolls and be able to redirect the "trolls" behavior in
> a postive and productive manner, and other administrators with similar
> situations be very confrontational and make a major enemy out of that
> troll.  So I'm suggesting here that some wiki communities are able to
> cope with problem individuals better than others as well.  Also,
> sometimes a person may mature over the course of time and may be willing
> to try with a fresh start at a new place...and I'm willing to give most
> new contributors the benefit of the doubt unless their actions prove to
> be damaging.
>
> -- Robert Horning
>
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