[Foundation-l] Localisation of MediaWiki

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
With better tooling a better understanding comes. This happened and from
that moment we have been expressing the need for a full localisation of
MediaWiki and the localisation of the extensions usedd by the Wikimedia
Foundation. When we approve a project it takes something like two weeks from
the moment this process starts until we can announce that this is the case.
It would be unconscionable to deny at this stage.

I have been busy looking at projects in the last couple of days and I
pointed out what we expect of the proposed Japanese Wikiversity. If anything
I would expect the Japanese community to finish off this needed work even
without there being a requirement for this new project.

As to preferring European projects over Asian projects :) I do not think so.
It is rather the reverse for me personally, I would sooner apply positive
discrimination against the first world then against the others. Then again,
from an economic point of view, Japan is part of the first world.

Thanks,
    GerardM

On Jan 13, 2008 7:37 PM, Aphaia <aphaia at gmail.com> wrote:

> From meta
>
> The Greek nor the Spanish would get their final approval any more.
> GerardM 14:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
> :Thanks for your clarification. So Japanese Wikiversity can launch
> their own wiki as well as Greek Wikiversity already does so? --Aphaia
> 15:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
> ::Sorry, no. GerardM 18:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
> :::Then it seems still unfair. And I think it is your accountability
> to provide why you treat Japanese project and Greek project
> differently. --Aphaia 18:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
>
> As an individual editor and as well an editor who joined the
> discussion about this particular project, I think it is a fair request
> for ask Langcom for the reason of this partiality.
>
> Why Asian projects are refused what European projects has given?
>
> On Jan 14, 2008 3:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > It is not surprising .. It is what we hope for.
> > Thanks,
> >      GerardM
> >
> >
> > On Jan 13, 2008 5:51 PM, Marco Chiesa <chiesa.marco at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:
> > > > Hoi,
> > > > I agree that it is unfair. I am asking others to help with the
> > > localisation.
> > > > I do ask the Spanish Wikimedians to do the localisation for their
> > > language.
> > > >
> > > > Where I disagree is that it is unreasonable to require the full
> > > localisation
> > > > for any subsequent project to start. It is one of the few mechanisms
> > > that
> > > > the language committee has to ensure that projects in a language
> will be
> > > a
> > > > success. We require localisation and we require sufficient quality
> > > content
> > > > and sufficient activity so that we can prevent the failure of the
> many
> > > > projects we have seen in the past. When the localisation is done and
> the
> > > > project fails anyway there is at least something to show for the
> effort.
> > > >
> > > > For another second project, one with little or no localisation, we
> got
> > > the
> > > > complaint that there may be no people that CAN do the localisation.
> The
> > > > person indicated that he is only a level-1 speaker of the language
> ...
> > > what
> > > > I ask myself is what the quality of the existing project is.
> > > >
> > > > In a perfect world the localisation of MediaWiki is continuously
> > > maintained.
> > > > In this way a new project does not have to put effort to fulfill
> this
> > > > requirement. Some languages like Arab, Farsi, Dutch, Croat, Slovak,
> > > Upper
> > > > Sorbian to name only a few it is a perfect world.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >       GerardM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Well, it just appears that the Japanese or the Spanish Wikipedia have
> > > managed to become a successful project without a complete
> localisation.
> > > Very surprising, indeed!
> > >
> > > Cruccone
> > >
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